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2012-08-03 07:47:55 utc hallucynogenyc Hello again
2012-08-03 07:48:01 utc jmettraux hello
2012-08-03 07:48:07 utc hallucynogenyc yes, you guessed it, I come with more doubts :)
2012-08-03 07:49:04 utc hartog hallucynogenyc: its spelled duobt in here :D
2012-08-03 07:49:20 utc hallucynogenyc uoch :S
2012-08-03 07:49:25 utc hartog (sorry, couldnt resist)
2012-08-03 07:49:33 utc hallucynogenyc (neither me)
2012-08-03 07:50:25 utc hallucynogenyc Well, so here I go
2012-08-03 07:51:02 utc hallucynogenyc Why is it that the proceed method only takes the workitem as argument?
2012-08-03 07:51:09 utc hallucynogenyc how can he knows where I want to go?
2012-08-03 07:51:13 utc hallucynogenyc know*
2012-08-03 07:51:49 utc hallucynogenyc I mean, out of a sequential flow this can't work, can it?
2012-08-03 07:52:31 utc hartog the engine takes care of that (and it does seem to work ;))
2012-08-03 07:53:17 utc jmettraux
2012-08-03 07:54:38 utc jmettraux this flow assumes that the participant behind "alice" set a field named "decision"
2012-08-03 07:55:02 utc jmettraux latter stages of this flow execute certain step conditionally, depending on the value of the field "decision"
2012-08-03 07:55:11 utc jmettraux s/latter/later/
2012-08-03 07:56:55 utc hallucynogenyc I see, so the flow is always deterministic
2012-08-03 07:57:32 utc jmettraux would adding an argument to proceed() make it undeterministic?
2012-08-03 07:58:21 utc hallucynogenyc Well, yes, the engine couldn't know where the flow is going to after state X just by looking at X
2012-08-03 07:58:36 utc jmettraux doesn't make sense
2012-08-03 07:58:59 utc jmettraux the info you want is just placed inside of the workitem
2012-08-03 07:59:21 utc jmettraux somehow, are you looking for a workflow engine or a state machine library?
2012-08-03 08:00:20 utc hallucynogenyc I'm not really sure, but someone "above" me is pretty sure it's a workflow engine that I'm looking for ;)
2012-08-03 08:24:48 utc jmettraux hallucynogenyc: one of those "webflow", it's contained inside of one participant step in vanilla ruote
2012-08-03 08:30:51 utc jmettraux hallucynogenyc: btw, as I always say, "if nobody is responding here, questions are welcome on the mailing-list: )
2012-08-03 08:31:12 utc hallucynogenyc Sure :)
2012-08-03 08:31:22 utc hallucynogenyc I've just had good luck until now finding you here hehe
2012-08-03 08:45:37 utc jmettraux five years of ruote immaturity in a single page:
2012-08-03 10:44:34 utc jmettraux fuck that
2012-08-03 10:44:55 utc jmettraux I officially declare ruote as an "immature" project
2012-08-03 10:45:01 utc hartog other time, perhaps
2012-08-03 10:45:26 utc hartog jmettraux: are there 'mature' projects?
2012-08-03 10:45:37 utc jmettraux lol
2012-08-03 10:48:04 utc hartog jmettraux: what's up? why the 'self-hatred' all of a sudden?
2012-08-03 11:05:31 utc jmettraux hallucynogenyc: sorry, I had to go
2012-08-03 11:05:57 utc hallucynogenyc no problem
2012-08-03 11:06:31 utc hallucynogenyc I've found another doubt on your absence
2012-08-03 11:06:38 utc hallucynogenyc :)
2012-08-03 11:06:44 utc jmettraux hallucynogenyc: these are not doubts
2012-08-03 11:06:53 utc jmettraux why do you call them doubts?
2012-08-03 11:07:22 utc hallucynogenyc maybe I'm misusing the word, let me check
2012-08-03 11:07:28 utc hallucynogenyc English is my third language
2012-08-03 11:07:32 utc hallucynogenyc :S
2012-08-03 11:07:58 utc jmettraux hartog: someone's boss called ruote an "immature" project, while that boss vaguely read about "workflows" in his "CTO Magazine" while waiting for his buddy at the golf range
2012-08-03 11:08:16 utc jmettraux hallucynogenyc: where are you based?
2012-08-03 11:08:42 utc hallucynogenyc Spain
2012-08-03 11:09:32 utc jmettraux ok
2012-08-03 11:11:09 utc jmettraux hallucynogenyc: here's a flow to answer your initial question of today:
2012-08-03 11:11:47 utc hallucynogenyc god...
2012-08-03 11:12:13 utc jmettraux what's wrong with that?
2012-08-03 11:13:33 utc hallucynogenyc well, unless I'm completely missunderstanding the example
2012-08-03 11:13:41 utc hallucynogenyc it seems like a i'ts over so gtfo t me
2012-08-03 11:14:01 utc jmettraux ?
2012-08-03 11:14:20 utc hallucynogenyc stop :if => '${over}'
2012-08-03 11:14:38 utc hallucynogenyc kinda sounds like sarcasm
2012-08-03 11:15:01 utc jmettraux any participant can set the field "over" to true to if he wants the loop to terminate
2012-08-03 11:15:41 utc hallucynogenyc excuse me, what question are you answering here?
2012-08-03 11:16:13 utc hallucynogenyc because I didn't ask anything yet
2012-08-03 11:16:27 utc hallucynogenyc :S
2012-08-03 11:16:33 utc jmettraux ok, your "hey why can't I set the next step in the proceed() method?"
2012-08-03 11:16:36 utc jmettraux question
2012-08-03 11:16:55 utc hallucynogenyc oh, but that was like 1 hour ago?
2012-08-03 11:17:05 utc hallucynogenyc You already answered didn't you?
2012-08-03 11:17:32 utc jmettraux I think that this new gist is closer to what you need / you were investigating
2012-08-03 11:17:52 utc jmettraux so what is your second language? Castillan with Catalan first?
2012-08-03 11:18:06 utc hallucynogenyc exactly
2012-08-03 11:18:22 utc jmettraux btw, fun presentation on Thoughtworks using ruote at Rackspace:
2012-08-03 11:18:29 utc hallucynogenyc I see you traced the ip nicely :)
2012-08-03 11:19:44 utc jmettraux sorry, I didn't trace the ip at all, I just made a wild guess, Catalogne is a populous place
2012-08-03 11:20:00 utc hallucynogenyc You really knew about Catalonia? :o
2012-08-03 11:20:07 utc jmettraux is also about the ${next} idea
2012-08-03 11:20:58 utc hallucynogenyc First time I meet someone outside of Spain who knows what Catalonia or catalan is
2012-08-03 11:21:21 utc jmettraux have you seen the movie "l'auberge espagnole" ?
2012-08-03 11:21:53 utc hallucynogenyc no
2012-08-03 11:22:27 utc hallucynogenyc Oh, a movie based in Barcelona
2012-08-03 11:22:30 utc hallucynogenyc nice
2012-08-03 11:23:23 utc jmettraux it's fun, the students come to learn "castillan" in Barcelona and lots of the teachers at the University give courses in Catalan, so at some point there is a small scene about that
2012-08-03 11:23:52 utc hallucynogenyc well, 90% of my teachers use catalan yeah
2012-08-03 11:23:57 utc jmettraux my mother tongue is french, so sometimes Catalan feels closer than Castillan
2012-08-03 11:24:15 utc hallucynogenyc Castillan is very influenced by arab
2012-08-03 11:24:28 utc jmettraux oh really, I didn't know
2012-08-03 11:24:42 utc hallucynogenyc well, we had muslims here for 600 years
2012-08-03 11:24:48 utc hallucynogenyc hard not to get influenced
2012-08-03 11:25:25 utc hallucynogenyc Catalonia didn't get the invasion btw
2012-08-03 11:26:12 utc hallucynogenyc You can read more here if you are interested :)
2012-08-03 11:26:23 utc jmettraux thanks
2012-08-03 11:26:26 utc hallucynogenyc ok, so back to where we were
2012-08-03 11:26:31 utc hallucynogenyc the new doubt is
2012-08-03 11:32:01 utc hallucynogenyc how can I ask ruote what are the possible next "steps" on a worflow, in, for instance an exclusive choice
2012-08-03 11:33:35 utc jmettraux I tend to have flows where the "next step" decision is not shown as crudely as that
2012-08-03 11:34:11 utc hallucynogenyc uhm, let me see
2012-08-03 11:34:20 utc jmettraux the participant sets fields "customer", "country", "amount" and then the flow, upon receiving the answer and resuming, goes in the appropriate direction
2012-08-03 11:34:42 utc hallucynogenyc yeah, so that the participant doesn't even notice
2012-08-03 11:34:46 utc hallucynogenyc he has taken a direction
2012-08-03 11:34:52 utc jmettraux in the "next" example, it's true that "hey what's next" question is asked directly
2012-08-03 11:35:12 utc jmettraux since it's usually about users or group of users, the participant is usually linked to something like LDAP
2012-08-03 11:35:32 utc jmettraux oh, the next people are "Mario", "Marthe" or "Bob"
2012-08-03 11:35:45 utc jmettraux or "accounting", "logistics", "yellow team"
2012-08-03 11:36:24 utc jmettraux a participant receives a workitem and can change it's payload
2012-08-03 11:36:42 utc jmettraux now if it's a human participant, you usually have a form and you have to populate the form
2012-08-03 11:36:50 utc hallucynogenyc exactly
2012-08-03 11:36:55 utc jmettraux and it depends on the applications
2012-08-03 11:37:20 utc hallucynogenyc so in my case, asume I have this form and that the next step is either filling this form again or ending the process
2012-08-03 11:37:41 utc hallucynogenyc I have to put a state in the middle to make it decide
2012-08-03 11:38:15 utc hallucynogenyc I'd like to populate this decision form automatically
2012-08-03 11:38:31 utc jmettraux cool
2012-08-03 11:38:55 utc hallucynogenyc what I'm looking for is a function like options(workitem)
2012-08-03 11:39:08 utc hallucynogenyc which returns a list of all the ways the flow can go
2012-08-03 11:39:26 utc hallucynogenyc so that I can populate the form with the results
2012-08-03 11:40:05 utc jmettraux ok, so I the flow -> sequence; alice; bob; end
2012-08-03 11:40:07 utc hallucynogenyc should I just "hardcode" that into the form or is it possible to retrieve this information from the engine?
2012-08-03 11:40:15 utc jmettraux at the point "alice" what are the next possible steps?
2012-08-03 11:40:19 utc hallucynogenyc bob
2012-08-03 11:40:22 utc jmettraux ok
2012-08-03 11:40:52 utc jmettraux in the flow -> sequence do; alice; concurrence do; bob; charly; end; end;
2012-08-03 11:41:02 utc jmettraux at the point "alice", what are the next possible steps?
2012-08-03 11:41:21 utc hallucynogenyc well, here there's just a possibility
2012-08-03 11:41:28 utc hallucynogenyc because it's a concurrent schema
2012-08-03 11:41:30 utc hallucynogenyc isn't it
2012-08-03 11:41:32 utc hallucynogenyc ?
2012-08-03 11:41:48 utc jmettraux well the next step is -> concurrence do; bob; charly; end
2012-08-03 11:41:55 utc hallucynogenyc yeah, exactly
2012-08-03 11:42:01 utc hallucynogenyc you must do both bob and charly
2012-08-03 11:42:10 utc hallucynogenyc there's no other possiblity
2012-08-03 11:42:25 utc jmettraux in -> repeat do; participant :ref => '${next}'; end
2012-08-03 11:42:29 utc jmettraux what is the next step?
2012-08-03 11:42:54 utc hallucynogenyc whatever there is inside next
2012-08-03 11:42:58 utc jmettraux right
2012-08-03 11:43:11 utc jmettraux how would you populate the select box for "next"?
2012-08-03 11:43:41 utc hallucynogenyc well, but there would only be 1 box here wouldn't it?
2012-08-03 11:43:53 utc hallucynogenyc I don't see where you want to go
2012-08-03 11:44:09 utc jmettraux the list of possible participant is an answer
2012-08-03 11:44:13 utc jmettraux s
2012-08-03 11:45:17 utc jmettraux but when you have a "catchall", that maps any participant name to a user name, the list should be limited to the list of users with access to the system
2012-08-03 11:45:41 utc jmettraux ok
2012-08-03 11:46:07 utc jmettraux technically, it's easy to come up with a way to scan the process tree and determine cases where you have a bifurcation next
2012-08-03 11:46:32 utc jmettraux but usually it's more clever to craft dedicated forms for the steps
2012-08-03 11:47:39 utc hallucynogenyc yeah it was just a bad example
2012-08-03 11:48:15 utc jmettraux sometimes it's ok when you show the graphical representation of the process, people can "orient" themselves
2012-08-03 11:49:01 utc jmettraux but now I remeber having case where people needed to see the next decisions clearly
2012-08-03 11:49:08 utc jmettraux but they neede the previous decisions too
2012-08-03 11:49:16 utc jmettraux it was more like a wizard
2012-08-03 11:49:23 utc jmettraux for setting up a new bank account
2012-08-03 11:49:38 utc jmettraux various countries involved, fine decisions at each step
2012-08-03 11:49:48 utc jmettraux the adviser was working with the customer
2012-08-03 11:50:02 utc jmettraux and they went back and forth exploring the decision tree
2012-08-03 11:50:11 utc jmettraux but it all happened in one, multi pane, form
2012-08-03 11:50:17 utc jmettraux not as workflow steps
2012-08-03 11:50:37 utc hallucynogenyc I see
2012-08-03 11:50:38 utc jmettraux it was all one big workflow step
2012-08-03 11:51:04 utc jmettraux the next workflow step was "cancel the operation or open the account with the details decided"
2012-08-03 11:51:35 utc hallucynogenyc so the bifurcation was either go back or continue and the ui was hardcoded
2012-08-03 11:52:07 utc hallucynogenyc I mean, it makes sense to have it like this in your case
2012-08-03 11:52:36 utc jmettraux the ui was composed with a small DSL, it was grabbing fill info from the workitem
2012-08-03 11:52:54 utc jmettraux something similar to:
2012-08-03 11:53:25 utc hallucynogenyc I see
2012-08-03 11:53:46 utc jmettraux somehow, ruote is not Rails
2012-08-03 11:54:00 utc hallucynogenyc :)
2012-08-03 11:54:08 utc jmettraux convention over configuration is nice, but there are some many ways to skin a cat
2012-08-03 11:54:29 utc jmettraux when I moved to Ruby with ruote, I really wanted to let people have fun with Ruby
2012-08-03 11:54:53 utc jmettraux I don't want to be like those other workflows engines with lots of "connectors" or "plugins"
2012-08-03 11:55:18 utc jmettraux developing in Ruby is so fast, if I implement everything for everybody, that won't be right
2012-08-03 11:55:47 utc jmettraux it's a library not a product
2012-08-03 11:56:16 utc hallucynogenyc hey and we like that
2012-08-03 11:56:28 utc hallucynogenyc I'm just surprised you don't seem to think that knowing the next possible steps would be useful, I suspect I'm probably thinking it wrong
2012-08-03 11:56:43 utc hallucynogenyc I'll go eat now and think about it
2012-08-03 11:56:46 utc hallucynogenyc see you later :)
2012-08-03 11:56:52 utc jmettraux wait
2012-08-03 11:57:01 utc jmettraux if you come up with a good use case for that
2012-08-03 11:57:07 utc jmettraux I'll help you develop it
2012-08-03 11:57:51 utc jmettraux ok, bon appetit!
2012-08-03 12:10:40 utc hartog jmettraux: I have another question regarding 'in-participant-driving'
2012-08-03 12:10:55 utc jmettraux ok
2012-08-03 12:11:12 utc hartog i would like to do a 'wait 1d and redo' from within a participant
2012-08-03 12:11:43 utc hartog mainly because it look messy in the pdef (to be honest)
2012-08-03 12:12:13 utc hartog s/look/looks/
2012-08-03 12:12:41 utc jmettraux ACTION looks at how to set a timeout from a participant (instead of from the process participant)
2012-08-03 12:12:50 utc jmettraux (instead of from the process definition)
2012-08-03 12:13:09 utc hartog (confusing isn't it, all these terms? ;->)
2012-08-03 12:13:20 utc jmettraux :-)
2012-08-03 12:14:35 utc jmettraux hartog: could that help?
2012-08-03 12:15:24 utc jmettraux technically, with ruote 2.3.0, you can write "def rtimers; "x"; end" (no workitem argument)
2012-08-03 12:16:34 utc jmettraux feel free to open a doc issue for it, it's missing from the documentation (around )
2012-08-03 12:16:57 utc hartog what happens with the rtimers if I reply?
2012-08-03 12:17:02 utc hartog get ignored?
2012-08-03 12:17:46 utc jmettraux the timers get unscheduled
2012-08-03 12:18:08 utc hartog ok - that could help
2012-08-03 12:19:20 utc hartog so if id do 'def rtimers; "rewind"; end' - it could just work?
2012-08-03 12:19:47 utc jmettraux in the context of a "cursor", yes, it should
2012-08-03 12:20:11 utc jmettraux well, more like "1d: rewind"
2012-08-03 12:20:25 utc hartog is there a 'redo' keyword?
2012-08-03 12:21:09 utc jmettraux yes,
2012-08-03 12:21:56 utc hartog thats cool
2012-08-03 12:22:43 utc hartog that is very cool
2012-08-03 12:22:51 utc jmettraux :-)
2012-08-03 12:22:57 utc hartog ACTION is creating very funky things now
2012-08-03 12:27:18 utc jmettraux lucky you ;-)
2012-08-03 12:50:23 utc hartog ehr, why does this not work? invoice_partner, :if => '${f:commission} > 0'
2012-08-03 12:50:43 utc jmettraux the comma?
2012-08-03 12:51:03 utc hartog (that's just copy-paste error)
2012-08-03 12:51:16 utc jmettraux 2.3.0?
2012-08-03 12:51:24 utc hartog ${f:commission} was 2.310000 in the last run
2012-08-03 12:51:26 utc hartog yes
2012-08-03 12:51:42 utc jmettraux let me check the tests
2012-08-03 12:59:09 utc jmettraux hartog: this "works on my machine":
2012-08-03 13:01:05 utc hartog wait : ${f:something} is for workitem-Field, right?
2012-08-03 13:01:35 utc jmettraux yes
2012-08-03 13:02:01 utc hartog strange
2012-08-03 13:05:34 utc jmettraux you can omit f: most of the times
2012-08-03 13:06:01 utc hartog i like it, it signifies a difference with v:
2012-08-03 13:14:59 utc hartog i am flabbergasted
2012-08-03 13:16:53 utc hartog no i am not flabbegasted - i am an idiot!
2012-08-03 13:17:56 utc hartog i had scaffolded a participant implementation with a nice TODO, but forgot to return reply up-top
2012-08-03 13:18:09 utc hartog hence, nothing made it passed the participant
2012-08-03 13:19:28 utc jmettraux great, solved
2012-08-03 13:38:33 utc hallucynogenyc I'm so confused right now
2012-08-03 13:39:08 utc hallucynogenyc Yesterday you told me that I should register the participants in the ruote-kit initialization
2012-08-03 13:39:42 utc hallucynogenyc but to not use catchall but something like 'alice' or 'bob'
2012-08-03 13:39:53 utc hallucynogenyc so I went ahead and replaced catchall for alice
2012-08-03 13:40:11 utc hallucynogenyc and made the stub process I'm using
2012-08-03 13:40:22 utc hallucynogenyc with a single participant 'alice'
2012-08-03 13:40:33 utc hallucynogenyc somehow I forgot to restart the server
2012-08-03 13:41:08 utc hallucynogenyc and in fact the changes I made to the server had not been applied
2012-08-03 13:41:16 utc hallucynogenyc to the ruote-kit initializer*
2012-08-03 13:41:30 utc hallucynogenyc but it still was working
2012-08-03 13:42:00 utc hallucynogenyc now to my surprise I restarted the server and it was crashing on start because alice is not a function
2012-08-03 13:42:06 utc hallucynogenyc and apparently catchall is
2012-08-03 13:43:04 utc hallucynogenyc I thought catchall was just a random name for the participant
2012-08-03 13:43:22 utc hallucynogenyc what a mess
2012-08-03 13:43:26 utc hallucynogenyc can someone explain?
2012-08-03 13:48:31 utc jmettraux "catchall" is some kind of an alias for the /.+/ regular expression
2012-08-03 13:49:46 utc jmettraux it's usually used in contexts where any participant name must be mapped
2012-08-03 13:49:55 utc jmettraux by default, ruote-kit accepts any participant name
2012-08-03 13:50:14 utc jmettraux and pass them to a Ruote::StorageParticipant (some kind of inbox)
2012-08-03 13:59:17 utc jmettraux I don't understand why you say "alice is not a function"
2012-08-03 14:02:01 utc hallucynogenyc well
2012-08-03 14:02:19 utc hallucynogenyc it's just that the server crashes
2012-08-03 14:02:25 utc hallucynogenyc if instead of catchall I write alice
2012-08-03 14:02:44 utc hallucynogenyc digging into the source code I saw that catchall was a function
2012-08-03 14:03:10 utc hallucynogenyc and so I asumed that if he is expecting functions in there that's why it crashes if I write alice
2012-08-03 14:03:48 utc hallucynogenyc oh fml
2012-08-03 14:03:50 utc jmettraux if you need help on that, please gist the error and its trace
2012-08-03 14:03:59 utc hallucynogenyc I'm idiot
2012-08-03 14:04:03 utc hallucynogenyc :S
2012-08-03 14:05:01 utc hallucynogenyc I was writting alice literally
2012-08-03 14:05:05 utc hallucynogenyc not between '
2012-08-03 14:05:27 utc hallucynogenyc I mean, I know how strings are declared in ruby, but saw catchall written like that
2012-08-03 14:05:39 utc hallucynogenyc thought there was some weird DSL involved
2012-08-03 14:05:42 utc hallucynogenyc -.-
2012-08-03 14:05:48 utc jmettraux ok, solved, well done
2012-08-03 14:12:15 utc hallucynogenyc uhm, I read on the documentation
2012-08-03 14:12:27 utc hallucynogenyc NOTE : since ruote 2.3.0 register(&block) will clear the participant list by default
2012-08-03 14:12:39 utc hallucynogenyc however, it's not doing it here
2012-08-03 14:12:52 utc hallucynogenyc I have a single line on the register block
2012-08-03 14:12:59 utc hallucynogenyc bob Ruote::StorageParticipant
2012-08-03 14:13:09 utc hallucynogenyc however in ruote-kit participant list
2012-08-03 14:13:20 utc hallucynogenyc I still have everything I ever registered
2012-08-03 14:14:46 utc jmettraux did you restart?
2012-08-03 14:14:48 utc hartog ACTION goes home
2012-08-03 14:14:54 utc hartog have a good weekend!
2012-08-03 14:15:02 utc jmettraux hartog: you too!
2012-08-03 14:15:35 utc hallucynogenyc yeah I restart de server
2012-08-03 14:16:16 utc jmettraux what exactly does your register block look like? (gist)
2012-08-03 14:17:01 utc hallucynogenyc
2012-08-03 14:17:56 utc jmettraux what browser are you using?
2012-08-03 14:17:59 utc hallucynogenyc chrome
2012-08-03 14:18:12 utc jmettraux let me test on my side
2012-08-03 14:20:07 utc jmettraux tested with vanilla ruote-kit
2012-08-03 14:20:11 utc jmettraux works as expected
2012-08-03 14:20:21 utc jmettraux are you using the default (fs) storage?
2012-08-03 14:20:27 utc jmettraux anything particulare I should know?
2012-08-03 14:22:16 utc jmettraux s/particulare/particular/
2012-08-03 14:23:44 utc hallucynogenyc uhm, I'd say no but considering I'm a total newb
2012-08-03 14:23:54 utc hallucynogenyc I might be missing things aswell
2012-08-03 14:24:26 utc hallucynogenyc RUOTE_STORAGE ="ruote_work_#{Rails.env}") RuoteKit.engine =
2012-08-03 14:24:44 utc jmettraux looks good
2012-08-03 14:25:04 utc hallucynogenyc well, it's not like this is any critical thing
2012-08-03 14:25:13 utc hallucynogenyc I guess I'll just ignore it
2012-08-03 14:25:50 utc jmettraux and if you hit "shift refresh" in your browser when looking at the participant list ?
2012-08-03 14:26:21 utc hallucynogenyc I think clear cache and refresh is ctrl f5 on chrome, but whatever
2012-08-03 14:26:28 utc hallucynogenyc that can't be it because I do see the things I add
2012-08-03 14:26:54 utc hallucynogenyc I mean, if now I change bob for charly I'll get the catchall there was at the begining, alice bob and charly
2012-08-03 14:27:28 utc jmettraux what does your Gemfile look like?
2012-08-03 14:28:12 utc hallucynogenyc
2012-08-03 14:28:41 utc jmettraux you're using ruote 2.2.0
2012-08-03 14:29:30 utc jmettraux
2012-08-03 14:30:23 utc hallucynogenyc_ connection down :S
2012-08-03 14:30:30 utc hallucynogenyc_ if you said something I didnt read
2012-08-03 14:30:39 utc jmettraux hallucynogenyc_: what was the last line you saw?
2012-08-03 14:30:44 utc hallucynogenyc_ the one I wrote
2012-08-03 14:30:52 utc hallucynogenyc_ with the gemfile gist
2012-08-03 14:30:56 utc jmettraux 23:21 jmettraux: you're using ruote 2.2.0
2012-08-03 14:30:57 utc jmettraux 23:22 jmettraux:
2012-08-03 14:31:42 utc hallucynogenyc_ oh my, my own ticket being used against me
2012-08-03 14:33:15 utc jmettraux I have to go to bed now
2012-08-03 14:33:19 utc hallucynogenyc_ I recall mentioning somewhere in the ticket that I was getting a git error if I tried to use the master version
2012-08-03 14:33:27 utc hallucynogenyc_ oh, sure
2012-08-03 14:33:36 utc hallucynogenyc_ you got any idea on why do I get this?
2012-08-03 14:33:46 utc jmettraux let me check your ticket, I don't remember this
2012-08-03 14:33:55 utc hallucynogenyc_ Git error: command `git fetch --force --quiet --tags 'git://' "refs/heads/*:refs/heads/*"` in directory /home/albert/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.3-p194@ruote/cache/bundler/git/ruote-328ff7d4702b753a6aac9fdd65ec2408c8be5455 has failed. If this error persists you could try removing the cache directory '/home/albert/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.3-p194@ruote/cache/bundler/git/ruote-328ff7d4702b753a6aac9fdd65ec2408c8be
2012-08-03 14:34:16 utc jmettraux never saw that
2012-08-03 14:34:23 utc jmettraux but the solution is described in it
2012-08-03 14:34:27 utc hallucynogenyc_ nono
2012-08-03 14:34:29 utc hallucynogenyc_ it doesnt work
2012-08-03 14:34:33 utc hallucynogenyc_ if I delte the folder same problem
2012-08-03 14:34:44 utc jmettraux and you didn't report that issue at all
2012-08-03 14:34:52 utc hallucynogenyc_ in the comment, didn't I?
2012-08-03 14:35:12 utc jmettraux
2012-08-03 14:35:34 utc jmettraux
2012-08-03 14:35:51 utc jmettraux so no
2012-08-03 14:36:10 utc hallucynogenyc_ oh, I remember now, I removed the project entirely because I figured that it just could relate the gem version with the git version
2012-08-03 14:36:17 utc hallucynogenyc_ but on a fresh project
2012-08-03 14:36:27 utc hallucynogenyc_ it game me the other error, the one I really posted abut
2012-08-03 14:36:45 utc hallucynogenyc_ 2nd comment on issue 21
2012-08-03 14:37:06 utc hallucynogenyc_ so I drpped it and went on with the gem last version
2012-08-03 14:37:14 utc jmettraux we fixed it all
2012-08-03 14:37:42 utc hallucynogenyc_ ok, is it worth deleting the project and remaking it again just for the 2.3 udate?
2012-08-03 14:38:03 utc jmettraux theoretically, it's not necessary
2012-08-03 14:38:20 utc hallucynogenyc_ I'll stick wth 2.2 then :)
2012-08-03 14:38:27 utc jmettraux that's a bad idea
2012-08-03 14:38:30 utc hallucynogenyc_ (for this test app at least)
2012-08-03 14:38:40 utc jmettraux please upgrade to 2.3.0
2012-08-03 14:38:50 utc hallucynogenyc_ well ok
2012-08-03 14:38:52 utc jmettraux it's a pain to support 2.2.0
2012-08-03 14:38:54 utc jmettraux thanks
2012-08-03 14:39:21 utc hallucynogenyc_ oh what the
2012-08-03 14:39:22 utc hallucynogenyc_ Successfully uninstalled ruote-2.1.11
2012-08-03 14:39:28 utc hallucynogenyc_ 2.1?
2012-08-03 14:39:29 utc hallucynogenyc_ lol
2012-08-03 14:40:31 utc jmettraux show me your Gemfile
2012-08-03 14:40:43 utc hallucynogenyc_ I already posted it
2012-08-03 14:41:05 utc jmettraux come on
2012-08-03 14:41:05 utc hallucynogenyc_ I was just not specifying any version
2012-08-03 14:41:16 utc jmettraux please follow the readme
2012-08-03 14:41:22 utc jmettraux I fixed it for you
2012-08-03 14:41:40 utc hallucynogenyc_ yeah yeah I used the github version now
2012-08-03 14:41:44 utc hallucynogenyc_ all is fine
2012-08-03 14:41:54 utc hallucynogenyc_ just that I was surprisd that it was using 2.1 before
2012-08-03 14:42:04 utc jmettraux did a blank install successfully right now:
2012-08-03 14:42:18 utc jmettraux ok, I need to go now
2012-08-03 14:42:35 utc hallucynogenyc_ many thanks again for your time
2012-08-03 14:42:46 utc jmettraux here is a good guide for posting issues:
2012-08-03 14:43:03 utc hallucynogenyc_ don't have nightmares with me, I know I've been pretty annoying today ;)
2012-08-03 14:43:05 utc hallucynogenyc_ good night
2012-08-03 14:43:18 utc jmettraux feel free to use the issue tracker and the mailing list
2012-08-03 14:43:41 utc jmettraux yeah, I have to wake up early tomorrow, to catch with the lost time
2012-08-03 14:43:51 utc hallucynogenyc_ oh :S
2012-08-03 14:44:28 utc hallucynogenyc_ well, I think I'm good to go for a while now, I hope I won't have to annoy you anymore tomorrow :)
2012-08-03 14:44:41 utc jmettraux great, ciao!
2012-08-03 21:13:18 utc hartog bedtime