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2011-07-06 04:59:00 utc kamalfariz jmettraux: hi! i guess i got my terms wrong. the process definition DSL makes a particular workflow
2011-07-06 04:59:04 utc kamalfariz compile
2011-07-06 04:59:06 utc kamalfariz compiled
2011-07-06 04:59:16 utc kamalfariz or rather, makes it look compiled
2011-07-06 04:59:17 utc jmettraux kamalfariz: hello ! welcome to #ruote
2011-07-06 04:59:52 utc kamalfariz so alice cleans the car, then bob sells the car. what if i had a new process that needs to be in between the two tasks?
2011-07-06 05:00:01 utc jmettraux you can say things like "participant :ref => "${participant_name_resolved_at_runtime}""
2011-07-06 05:00:10 utc jmettraux ah
2011-07-06 05:00:12 utc kamalfariz while the engine is already running
2011-07-06 05:00:53 utc jmettraux the simplest way to do that "in flight", is to replace bob by a sequence { charly; bob }
2011-07-06 05:01:17 utc jmettraux let me cook a gist
2011-07-06 05:09:29 utc jmettraux kamalfariz: sorry, it took a bit longer than I thought, https://gist.github.com/1066604
2011-07-06 05:09:45 utc kamalfariz jmettraux: thanks! checking it out
2011-07-06 05:09:59 utc jmettraux you have to modify the expression just upstream of the place where you want the change
2011-07-06 05:10:22 utc kamalfariz ah so the update_tree is the magic sauce
2011-07-06 05:10:57 utc jmettraux unfortunately, it's dangerous magic
2011-07-06 05:11:46 utc jmettraux well it works, but there are two or three basic "in-flight modification" patterns, and this update_tree() doesn't hold for all of them
2011-07-06 05:11:54 utc kamalfariz jmettraux: i'm trying to translate my manual processes at my office here into ruote, so i'm building it as i go
2011-07-06 05:12:02 utc kamalfariz i'm sure i'll miss some things
2011-07-06 05:12:27 utc kamalfariz so that gist will be helpful
2011-07-06 05:12:51 utc jmettraux maybe this will help you as well : http://jmettraux.wordpress.com/2010/01/29/barley/
2011-07-06 05:13:10 utc kamalfariz using ruote-kit, can i pause a running engine, modify the process definition and resume? i'm guessing no
2011-07-06 05:13:24 utc jmettraux it's just a loop, with a different participant each time
2011-07-06 05:13:46 utc jmettraux ruote-kit : you can do such update_tree() manipulations without pausing/stopping the engine
2011-07-06 05:14:09 utc jmettraux by modify the process definition, do you mean using update_tree() ?
2011-07-06 05:15:22 utc kamalfariz i was thinking by modifying the pdef itself via the DSL like at http://localhost:3000/_ruote/processes/new
2011-07-06 05:15:34 utc kamalfariz maybe a /processes/:id/edit
2011-07-06 05:16:32 utc jmettraux in fact, if you navigate to an expression in ruote-kit, you can re-apply it
2011-07-06 05:16:47 utc jmettraux it means you can force its branch to get cancelled
2011-07-06 05:17:15 utc jmettraux when you re-apply you're also given the opportunity to change the tree
2011-07-06 05:17:27 utc jmettraux change the JSON generated by the dsl at launch time
2011-07-06 05:17:50 utc jmettraux you can even include the editor if you click on the "dot" button
2011-07-06 05:18:01 utc jmettraux same thing as in the "launch" screen
2011-07-06 05:18:07 utc kamalfariz ah cool
2011-07-06 05:18:30 utc jmettraux you should have a tmp ruote-kit to play with those mechanisms
2011-07-06 05:18:37 utc jmettraux to get a feel for them
2011-07-06 05:19:22 utc jmettraux feedback, critiques, patches, suggestions are welcome, as always
2011-07-06 05:19:52 utc kamalfariz thanks
2011-07-06 05:21:26 utc jmettraux how are you doing by the way ?
2011-07-06 05:22:13 utc kamalfariz i'm doing great! the coworking space has been in operation for 1+ month, so now i'm automating most of the things
2011-07-06 05:22:36 utc kamalfariz i just discovered the "dot" editor, looks really interesting!
2011-07-06 05:23:17 utc jmettraux it's Ramadan right now ?
2011-07-06 05:23:39 utc kamalfariz not yet, in august
2011-07-06 05:24:02 utc jmettraux aah
2011-07-06 05:24:54 utc kamalfariz nice talking to you. have fun in rubykaigi. off to lunch!
2011-07-06 05:25:07 utc jmettraux ciao !