| 2010-09-01 08:24:10 utc | lbt | jmettraux: ping... |
| 2010-09-01 08:28:05 utc | jmettraux | lbt: hello |
| 2010-09-01 08:29:07 utc | lbt | hi there... |
| 2010-09-01 08:29:26 utc | lbt | so we have a new team working for us and if you have a minute I'd like to introduce them |
| 2010-09-01 08:29:40 utc | jmettraux | please |
| 2010-09-01 08:30:23 utc | lbt | OK ... give them a sec... we were discussing on #meego-dev |
| 2010-09-01 08:30:31 utc | lbt | jmettraux: http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Infrastructure/BOSS/Performance |
| 2010-09-01 08:31:00 utc | jmettraux | ok |
| 2010-09-01 08:31:45 utc | lbt | and eric... |
| 2010-09-01 08:32:00 utc | lbt | :) |
| 2010-09-01 08:32:04 utc | lbt | so, everyone, meet jmettraux... the excellent chap who made ruote what it is :) |
| 2010-09-01 08:32:11 utc | ericxu | I am on #ruote |
| 2010-09-01 08:32:12 utc | jmettraux | hi guys |
| 2010-09-01 08:32:22 utc | ericxu | Hi John |
| 2010-09-01 08:32:25 utc | VictorLiu | hi, jmettraux |
| 2010-09-01 08:32:41 utc | iamer | jmettraux: chapeaux |
| 2010-09-01 08:32:53 utc | lbt | jmettraux: ericxu is helping sort out the requirements and we're going to be working on BOSS/ruote |
| 2010-09-01 08:32:57 utc | jmettraux | merci |
| 2010-09-01 08:33:17 utc | lbt | One of our key objectives is to get code upstream ... and that means pleasing you :) |
| 2010-09-01 08:34:01 utc | lbt | so a first task for us is to work on the test framework around ruote to get to know it |
| 2010-09-01 08:34:22 utc | lbt | we're not ruby experts so we would appreciate advice |
| 2010-09-01 08:34:31 utc | weifeyao | hi, all |
| 2010-09-01 08:34:38 utc | jmettraux | the best channel is http://groups.google.com/group/openwferu-users |
| 2010-09-01 08:34:53 utc | lbt | noted |
| 2010-09-01 08:35:02 utc | jmettraux | and remember that it's open source |
| 2010-09-01 08:35:09 utc | jmettraux | so I'm not your employee |
| 2010-09-01 08:35:24 utc | lbt | I was rather hoping it would be the other way around :) |
| 2010-09-01 08:35:56 utc | jmettraux | well |
| 2010-09-01 08:36:01 utc | jmettraux | not rubyists |
| 2010-09-01 08:36:17 utc | lbt | no - the team are doing some training in that area |
| 2010-09-01 08:36:26 utc | lbt | and we know we need to get up to speed |
| 2010-09-01 08:36:39 utc | lbt | that's not what we'll be looking for from you |
| 2010-09-01 08:36:43 utc | jmettraux | ok |
| 2010-09-01 08:37:19 utc | lbt | the main thing we want is to identify what areas of work we feel we need to develop ... and if we can make them work for you that would be best |
| 2010-09-01 08:37:43 utc | lbt | if we can't then we'll have to develop them in a branch and maintain it... that's part of OSS |
| 2010-09-01 08:37:46 utc | jmettraux | btw, Rackspace and Thoughtworks are using ruote for provisioning servers : http://jmettraux.wordpress.com/2010/08/30/rocking-the-enterprise-with-ruby/ |
| 2010-09-01 08:38:06 utc | lbt | yes, I saw that this morning |
| 2010-09-01 08:38:41 utc | jmettraux | the ruote project has the regular open source project interfaces (mailing list, version control, issue tracker, ...) please respect them |
| 2010-09-01 08:38:59 utc | jmettraux | where is your team located ? |
| 2010-09-01 08:39:07 utc | jmettraux | 中国 ? |
| 2010-09-01 08:39:20 utc | ericxu | 北京 |
| 2010-09-01 08:39:20 utc | lbt | ericxu |
| 2010-09-01 08:39:26 utc | ericxu | Yes |
| 2010-09-01 08:39:36 utc | jmettraux | :-) |
| 2010-09-01 08:39:47 utc | lbt | :) |
| 2010-09-01 08:40:01 utc | lbt | so really, just a "hello" |
| 2010-09-01 08:40:27 utc | jmettraux | I'm glad to help |
| 2010-09-01 08:40:37 utc | ericxu | Thank you very much |
| 2010-09-01 08:40:54 utc | lbt | we would like to support ruote and if we make mistakes then please feel free to tell me/us... a lot of this is new to some of us |
| 2010-09-01 08:41:31 utc | jmettraux | please point to the weak points in the documentation and I'll improve it |
| 2010-09-01 08:41:52 utc | ericxu | Sure. Our pleasure |
| 2010-09-01 08:42:14 utc | lbt | on the testing framework side I think ericxu and VictorLiu will be posting some questions/proposals to the ml for an approach for the test framework I linked to. |
| 2010-09-01 08:42:26 utc | lbt | Much of which is probably already there |
| 2010-09-01 08:43:00 utc | jmettraux | framework == http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Infrastructure/BOSS/Performance ? |
| 2010-09-01 08:43:26 utc | lbt | well, that's more initial notes on our objectives :) |
| 2010-09-01 08:44:01 utc | jmettraux | please include load expectations |
| 2010-09-01 08:44:22 utc | ericxu | We will keep updating in future |
| 2010-09-01 08:46:30 utc | lbt | and the initial idea is to understand oo-magnitude performance on our hardware. Then design to it. I don't know if it is 10/sec or 10k/sec ... I barely know what units to use. |
| 2010-09-01 08:46:52 utc | jmettraux | number of builds per day ? |
| 2010-09-01 08:48:02 utc | lbt | number of packages built |
| 2010-09-01 08:48:47 utc | lbt | a package takes 2mins to >hrs to build. We have maybe 1-400 CPUS |
| 2010-09-01 08:49:12 utc | lbt | so a few/second |
| 2010-09-01 08:50:34 utc | lbt | each package will kick of a process ... most will be trivial and handed off at once to another CPU via AMQP... some will be intense and will go to a bigger farm |
| 2010-09-01 08:51:25 utc | lbt | Again, the focus is comprehension of what we have... not particularly to change it from a performance PoV |
| 2010-09-01 08:52:20 utc | lbt | Right... so any other questions from anyone? |
| 2010-09-01 08:52:55 utc | ericxu | no for now |
| 2010-09-01 08:53:11 utc | VictorLiu | No.. we may raise our questions in mail loop later |
| 2010-09-01 08:53:14 utc | lbt | great... then see you on the ml and irc .... and thanks jmettraux |
| 2010-09-01 08:53:42 utc | jmettraux | you're welcome |
| 2010-09-01 08:53:59 utc | lbt | oh, I missed that kennethkalmer was online ... hi.... kennethkalmer put the AMQP interface together |
| 2010-09-01 08:54:31 utc | lbt | o/ all |
| 2010-09-01 08:54:38 utc | jmettraux | is this dev team a nokia team ? |
| 2010-09-01 08:54:59 utc | lbt | paid by... yes |
| 2010-09-01 08:55:20 utc | lbt | MeeGo though in most senses |
| 2010-09-01 08:55:38 utc | lbt | everything we do at the source level should be OSS |
| 2010-09-01 08:56:01 utc | lbt | the only private stuff is process definitions and some internal system participants of course |
| 2010-09-01 08:56:32 utc | jmettraux | ok |
| 2010-09-01 09:05:48 utc | jmettraux | sivang: welcome on #ruote |
| 2010-09-01 09:06:08 utc | sivang | jmettraux: thanks, I've never used Ruby though |
| 2010-09-01 09:06:16 utc | jmettraux | ouch |
| 2010-09-01 09:06:25 utc | sivang | jmettraux: you could say, welcome en #ruote ;) |
| 2010-09-01 09:06:36 utc | sivang | jmettraux: But I have strong python background, can it help? |
| 2010-09-01 09:06:43 utc | jmettraux | it helps a lot |
| 2010-09-01 09:06:55 utc | jmettraux | are you part of lbt's team ? |
| 2010-09-01 09:07:07 utc | sivang | jmettraux: no, just a community contributor and interested |
| 2010-09-01 09:07:21 utc | jmettraux | meego community ? |
| 2010-09-01 09:07:25 utc | sivang | jmettraux: yes |
| 2010-09-01 09:07:33 utc | jmettraux | ok |
| 2010-09-01 09:09:00 utc | sivang | jmettraux: the "OS for business process" intrigues me, acting as a model between discrete processes |
| 2010-09-01 09:11:19 utc | jmettraux | "a model between discrete processes" ? |
| 2010-09-01 09:12:08 utc | sivang | jmettraux: never mind :) |
| 2010-09-01 09:15:32 utc | jmettraux | lbt: thanks for the help |
| 2010-09-01 09:16:23 utc | lbt | jmettraux: thanks... I really hope it is a help (at least in the medium term... I know we may cause some pain in the short term but I hope to minimise that!) |
| 2010-09-01 09:16:38 utc | jmettraux | :-) |
| 2010-09-01 09:17:30 utc | lbt | and *when* we meet ... I owe you some good coffee ... in fact why don't you grab one now? on me :D |
| 2010-09-01 09:17:59 utc | jmettraux | just grabbed one in fact |
| 2010-09-01 09:18:02 utc | jmettraux | thanks :-) |
| 2010-09-01 09:23:26 utc | sivang | heh |
| 2010-09-01 10:26:48 utc | jmettraux | http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Infrastructure/BOSS/Performance is kind of out of my scope |
| 2010-09-01 10:28:03 utc | lbt | jmettraux: OK |
| 2010-09-01 10:28:06 utc | lbt | all of it? |
| 2010-09-01 10:29:30 utc | lbt | the middle section felt more 'core'... or at least part of your spec/ dir |
| 2010-09-01 11:15:25 utc | jmettraux | part 2 and 3 can be answered straight away, I'll wait for the email |
| 2010-09-01 11:16:39 utc | lbt | *nod* |