ruote log_2010-05-12

2010-05-12 08:05:38 utc jmettraux hansen_: hello !
2010-05-12 08:05:49 utc hansen_ hello
2010-05-12 08:07:05 utc jmettraux to use a relational database with ruote
2010-05-12 08:07:09 utc jmettraux you have to use ruote-dm
2010-05-12 08:07:20 utc jmettraux
2010-05-12 08:09:23 utc hansen_ is every participants fit for ruote-dm?
2010-05-12 08:09:37 utc jmettraux yes
2010-05-12 08:09:59 utc jmettraux the Ruote::StorageParticipant places workitems in the database
2010-05-12 08:10:15 utc hansen_ It can be used with ruote-kit?
2010-05-12 08:10:21 utc jmettraux yes
2010-05-12 08:10:47 utc hansen_ And I want to save the whole process in the DB
2010-05-12 08:11:04 utc jmettraux what do you mean by "whole process" ?
2010-05-12 08:11:12 utc jmettraux process runtime data or process definitions ?
2010-05-12 08:11:56 utc hansen_ the process instance
2010-05-12 08:12:24 utc jmettraux that's what Ruote::Dm::DmStorage does, so it's OK
2010-05-12 08:13:20 utc jmettraux config/initializers/ruote.rb could look like :
2010-05-12 08:16:54 utc hansen_ OK thank you,I'll try the Ruote::Dm::DmStorage, There may be more problem that I'll trouble you.^_^
2010-05-12 08:17:07 utc jmettraux OK
2010-05-12 08:17:22 utc jmettraux if nobody replies here, please use the mailing list
2010-05-12 08:18:25 utc hansen_ Ok, The ruote is very greate, thank you!
2010-05-12 08:18:33 utc jmettraux :) thanks a lot !
2010-05-12 08:19:17 utc jmettraux if you have the time, please write some 中国語 documentation ;)
2010-05-12 09:16:25 utc der-dokctor good morning
2010-05-12 09:16:34 utc jmettraux good everning
2010-05-12 09:16:37 utc jmettraux evening
2010-05-12 09:17:21 utc der-dokctor hi john! :-) Thanks for your quick answer on the ml. Unfortunately I am not that fast with my replies…
2010-05-12 09:18:44 utc jmettraux ah, no worries
2010-05-12 09:19:03 utc jmettraux I simply forget
2010-05-12 09:19:43 utc hansen__ hi John, where can i execute "Ruote::Dm::Document.auto_migrate!" ? thank you
2010-05-12 09:20:13 utc jmettraux hansen__: well, you can execute it when you are preparing the database
2010-05-12 09:21:12 utc hansen__ In Ruby Terminal?
2010-05-12 09:21:24 utc jmettraux or in a rake task
2010-05-12 09:21:40 utc jmettraux you only have to run it once, when you are creating the database
2010-05-12 09:21:58 utc hansen__ OK, thank you
2010-05-12 09:22:22 utc jmettraux
2010-05-12 09:22:30 utc jmettraux this is an example
2010-05-12 09:23:42 utc hansen__ is ruote-dm save the process and workitems? If I restart the process,could it works OK?
2010-05-12 09:24:25 utc jmettraux yes, it will still be here
2010-05-12 09:24:52 utc jmettraux for the workitems, you have to use StorageParticipant, so that the workitems are stored in ruote-dm
2010-05-12 09:25:10 utc hansen__ OK,that's great!
2010-05-12 09:34:10 utc der-dokctor john, is it reasonable to use the SP as some kind of token and store the fields with payload in an AR model (thus, combinig the two in the AR model)? Or would you suggest to implement a new custom participant?
2010-05-12 09:35:17 utc jmettraux der-dokctor: I tend to point to model instances from workitems
2010-05-12 09:35:24 utc jmettraux to keep them tight
2010-05-12 09:35:57 utc jmettraux business processes do modify the state of models/records
2010-05-12 09:36:08 utc der-dokctor yeah, that#s what I ment. Then I am independent from changes in the ruote code
2010-05-12 09:36:34 utc jmettraux what kind of changes ?
2010-05-12 09:36:54 utc der-dokctor probably coming changes in the versions…
2010-05-12 09:37:15 utc jmettraux you can only place JSONifiable stuff in the workitems ;)
2010-05-12 09:37:47 utc jmettraux workitem payload is for data in "transit"
2010-05-12 09:38:01 utc jmettraux even if some processes may last very very very long
2010-05-12 09:38:13 utc der-dokctor Yes, I think I got that now. ;-)
2010-05-12 09:39:07 utc der-dokctor so basically the workitem is meant as a token diving through the workflow with some additional information
2010-05-12 09:39:16 utc jmettraux yes
2010-05-12 09:39:34 utc der-dokctor but not an container for the model infor itself
2010-05-12 09:39:41 utc der-dokctor info
2010-05-12 09:39:56 utc jmettraux ideally not
2010-05-12 09:40:22 utc jmettraux pragmatically, you might want to store some data "in transit"
2010-05-12 09:40:29 utc der-dokctor thanks. It requirered this "click" ;-)
2010-05-12 09:40:47 utc jmettraux in the end, *you* choose the right balance
2010-05-12 09:41:04 utc jmettraux have to escape for a while, I'll be back later
2010-05-12 09:41:11 utc der-dokctor ACTION also
2010-05-12 09:41:16 utc der-dokctor see you later