| 2010-05-12 08:05:38 utc | jmettraux | hansen_: hello ! |
| 2010-05-12 08:05:49 utc | hansen_ | hello |
| 2010-05-12 08:07:05 utc | jmettraux | to use a relational database with ruote |
| 2010-05-12 08:07:09 utc | jmettraux | you have to use ruote-dm |
| 2010-05-12 08:07:20 utc | jmettraux | http://github.com/jmettraux/ruote-dm |
| 2010-05-12 08:09:23 utc | hansen_ | is every participants fit for ruote-dm? |
| 2010-05-12 08:09:37 utc | jmettraux | yes |
| 2010-05-12 08:09:59 utc | jmettraux | the Ruote::StorageParticipant places workitems in the database |
| 2010-05-12 08:10:15 utc | hansen_ | It can be used with ruote-kit? |
| 2010-05-12 08:10:21 utc | jmettraux | yes |
| 2010-05-12 08:10:47 utc | hansen_ | And I want to save the whole process in the DB |
| 2010-05-12 08:11:04 utc | jmettraux | what do you mean by "whole process" ? |
| 2010-05-12 08:11:12 utc | jmettraux | process runtime data or process definitions ? |
| 2010-05-12 08:11:56 utc | hansen_ | the process instance |
| 2010-05-12 08:12:24 utc | jmettraux | that's what Ruote::Dm::DmStorage does, so it's OK |
| 2010-05-12 08:13:20 utc | jmettraux | config/initializers/ruote.rb could look like : http://gist.github.com/398324 |
| 2010-05-12 08:16:54 utc | hansen_ | OK thank you,I'll try the Ruote::Dm::DmStorage, There may be more problem that I'll trouble you.^_^ |
| 2010-05-12 08:17:07 utc | jmettraux | OK |
| 2010-05-12 08:17:22 utc | jmettraux | if nobody replies here, please use the mailing list |
| 2010-05-12 08:18:25 utc | hansen_ | Ok, The ruote is very greate, thank you! |
| 2010-05-12 08:18:33 utc | jmettraux | :) thanks a lot ! |
| 2010-05-12 08:19:17 utc | jmettraux | if you have the time, please write some 中国語 documentation ;) |
| 2010-05-12 09:16:25 utc | der-dokctor | good morning |
| 2010-05-12 09:16:34 utc | jmettraux | good everning |
| 2010-05-12 09:16:37 utc | jmettraux | evening |
| 2010-05-12 09:17:21 utc | der-dokctor | hi john! :-) Thanks for your quick answer on the ml. Unfortunately I am not that fast with my replies… |
| 2010-05-12 09:18:44 utc | jmettraux | ah, no worries |
| 2010-05-12 09:19:03 utc | jmettraux | I simply forget |
| 2010-05-12 09:19:43 utc | hansen__ | hi John, where can i execute "Ruote::Dm::Document.auto_migrate!" ? thank you |
| 2010-05-12 09:20:13 utc | jmettraux | hansen__: well, you can execute it when you are preparing the database |
| 2010-05-12 09:21:12 utc | hansen__ | In Ruby Terminal? |
| 2010-05-12 09:21:24 utc | jmettraux | or in a rake task |
| 2010-05-12 09:21:40 utc | jmettraux | you only have to run it once, when you are creating the database |
| 2010-05-12 09:21:58 utc | hansen__ | OK, thank you |
| 2010-05-12 09:22:22 utc | jmettraux | http://github.com/jmettraux/ruote-dm/blob/ruote2.1/test/integration_connection.rb |
| 2010-05-12 09:22:30 utc | jmettraux | this is an example |
| 2010-05-12 09:23:42 utc | hansen__ | is ruote-dm save the process and workitems? If I restart the process,could it works OK? |
| 2010-05-12 09:24:25 utc | jmettraux | yes, it will still be here |
| 2010-05-12 09:24:52 utc | jmettraux | for the workitems, you have to use StorageParticipant, so that the workitems are stored in ruote-dm |
| 2010-05-12 09:25:10 utc | hansen__ | OK,that's great! |
| 2010-05-12 09:34:10 utc | der-dokctor | john, is it reasonable to use the SP as some kind of token and store the fields with payload in an AR model (thus, combinig the two in the AR model)? Or would you suggest to implement a new custom participant? |
| 2010-05-12 09:35:17 utc | jmettraux | der-dokctor: I tend to point to model instances from workitems |
| 2010-05-12 09:35:24 utc | jmettraux | to keep them tight |
| 2010-05-12 09:35:57 utc | jmettraux | business processes do modify the state of models/records |
| 2010-05-12 09:36:08 utc | der-dokctor | yeah, that#s what I ment. Then I am independent from changes in the ruote code |
| 2010-05-12 09:36:34 utc | jmettraux | what kind of changes ? |
| 2010-05-12 09:36:54 utc | der-dokctor | probably coming changes in the versions… |
| 2010-05-12 09:37:15 utc | jmettraux | you can only place JSONifiable stuff in the workitems ;) |
| 2010-05-12 09:37:47 utc | jmettraux | workitem payload is for data in "transit" |
| 2010-05-12 09:38:01 utc | jmettraux | even if some processes may last very very very long |
| 2010-05-12 09:38:13 utc | der-dokctor | Yes, I think I got that now. ;-) |
| 2010-05-12 09:39:07 utc | der-dokctor | so basically the workitem is meant as a token diving through the workflow with some additional information |
| 2010-05-12 09:39:16 utc | jmettraux | yes |
| 2010-05-12 09:39:34 utc | der-dokctor | but not an container for the model infor itself |
| 2010-05-12 09:39:41 utc | der-dokctor | info |
| 2010-05-12 09:39:56 utc | jmettraux | ideally not |
| 2010-05-12 09:40:22 utc | jmettraux | pragmatically, you might want to store some data "in transit" |
| 2010-05-12 09:40:29 utc | der-dokctor | thanks. It requirered this "click" ;-) |
| 2010-05-12 09:40:47 utc | jmettraux | in the end, *you* choose the right balance |
| 2010-05-12 09:41:04 utc | jmettraux | have to escape for a while, I'll be back later |
| 2010-05-12 09:41:11 utc | der-dokctor | ACTION also |
| 2010-05-12 09:41:16 utc | der-dokctor | see you later |