ruote log_2010-05-11

2010-05-11 08:09:02 utc anb_ Hello
2010-05-11 08:09:10 utc jmettraux anb_: hello !
2010-05-11 08:09:26 utc anb_ how are you ?
2010-05-11 08:09:33 utc jmettraux I'm doing fine, and you ?
2010-05-11 08:09:39 utc anb_ great thx
2010-05-11 08:10:10 utc jmettraux quick question, IIRC, you wanted to use ruote-couch at some point, am I right ?
2010-05-11 08:10:32 utc anb_ I liked the idea of using it, yes
2010-05-11 08:11:05 utc anb_ but you said it was a bit slow
2010-05-11 08:11:22 utc jmettraux OK. Since couchdb 0.11 is out, I can now use ?feed=continuous&include_docs=true
2010-05-11 08:11:41 utc jmettraux and that seriously makes things simpler
2010-05-11 08:12:30 utc jmettraux but perf is still not that good
2010-05-11 08:13:34 utc anb_ well in our case we sorry about search performances mostly
2010-05-11 08:13:49 utc anb_ we could query couch directly
2010-05-11 08:13:55 utc jmettraux k
2010-05-11 13:30:09 utc anb_ John ? didn't find much about tags in the docs
2010-05-11 13:30:38 utc jmettraux hello
2010-05-11 13:30:40 utc jmettraux let me check
2010-05-11 13:30:46 utc anb_ Hello again :)
2010-05-11 13:31:08 utc jmettraux ouch
2010-05-11 13:31:10 utc jmettraux TODO
2010-05-11 13:31:28 utc jmettraux http://ruote.rubyforge.org/exp/redo.html
2010-05-11 13:31:38 utc jmettraux http://ruote.rubyforge.org/exp/undo.html
2010-05-11 13:32:11 utc jmettraux http://ruote.rubyforge.org/exp/cursor.html (jump can reference tags)
2010-05-11 13:32:38 utc anb_ all right
2010-05-11 13:32:51 utc anb_ I understand, it's not what I thought it was
2010-05-11 13:33:05 utc jmettraux what are you trying to achieve ?
2010-05-11 13:33:08 utc anb_ it's a kind of label ? as in goto label ?
2010-05-11 13:33:49 utc anb_ nothing, was just curious. thought you could "tag" processes into categories or something
2010-05-11 13:34:11 utc jmettraux ok
2010-05-11 13:34:25 utc anb_ it would not be very helpful
2010-05-11 13:34:39 utc anb_ thanks for the explanations
2010-05-11 13:34:48 utc jmettraux you're welcome
2010-05-11 18:32:15 utc der-dokctor Hi! :-)
2010-05-11 18:44:34 utc der-dokctor kennethkalmer, are you available?
2010-05-11 18:44:59 utc kennethkalmer hi der-dokctor
2010-05-11 18:45:06 utc kennethkalmer in an hour or so :)
2010-05-11 18:45:10 utc kennethkalmer if you don't mind
2010-05-11 18:45:11 utc kennethkalmer getting ready to have dinner
2010-05-11 18:45:31 utc der-dokctor fine. Enjoy your meal! :)
2010-05-11 18:46:08 utc kennethkalmer thanks, ttyl !
2010-05-11 19:53:44 utc kennethkalmer der-dokctor: some coffee ?
2010-05-11 19:55:23 utc der-dokctor kennethkalmer: I like coffe with cocoa :)
2010-05-11 19:56:15 utc der-dokctor did you enjoy your lunch?
2010-05-11 20:01:45 utc kennethkalmer was dinner, and yeah it was great
2010-05-11 20:02:24 utc kennethkalmer ACTION emits chocochino
2010-05-11 20:08:20 utc der-dokctor :-) merci
2010-05-11 20:08:52 utc der-dokctor kenneth, I have a question regarding ruote-active record
2010-05-11 20:09:23 utc kennethkalmer shoot, i'll have to dive deep into old memories to help
2010-05-11 20:09:24 utc der-dokctor ACTION enjoys cocochino
2010-05-11 20:09:34 utc kennethkalmer :)
2010-05-11 20:10:53 utc der-dokctor aah, that's doesn't sound good… I wanted to ask if it's still actively developed and if there are any plans for ruote2 and Active Record in rails(3)?
2010-05-11 20:11:11 utc kennethkalmer well, i can surely bring it up to date
2010-05-11 20:11:14 utc kennethkalmer i don't mind
2010-05-11 20:11:31 utc kennethkalmer maybe i should do it in two steps
2010-05-11 20:11:40 utc kennethkalmer first for AR 2.3.6 + ruote 2
2010-05-11 20:11:48 utc kennethkalmer then for AR 3 + ruote 2
2010-05-11 20:12:12 utc kennethkalmer how are you planning on using it ?
2010-05-11 20:14:07 utc der-dokctor At the moment I think I need something like an Active Record-Participant
2010-05-11 20:14:19 utc der-dokctor it should later be used with Rails 3
2010-05-11 20:15:03 utc der-dokctor As I understood ruote-activerecord does the whole persistence of the engin, participant, etc. in AR
2010-05-11 20:15:37 utc der-dokctor I am not sure if we will need this later
2010-05-11 20:16:02 utc der-dokctor but AR persistence for the participant is a must
2010-05-11 20:16:02 utc kennethkalmer let me check what it does, or doesn't do for you
2010-05-11 20:16:18 utc der-dokctor :-)
2010-05-11 20:16:47 utc kennethkalmer seems to offer the full range of features needed
2010-05-11 20:16:56 utc kennethkalmer let me get the tests running
2010-05-11 20:20:05 utc der-dokctor thank you
2010-05-11 20:20:47 utc kennethkalmer rvm ftw, thanks wayneeseguin
2010-05-11 20:22:20 utc der-dokctor rvm is really nice
2010-05-11 20:22:28 utc kennethkalmer just setting up an isolated gemset for rails 2.3.5
2010-05-11 20:22:42 utc kennethkalmer getting wrong versions of activesupport included
2010-05-11 20:22:48 utc der-dokctor great
2010-05-11 20:23:25 utc der-dokctor are you planning to actively develop it in the future?
2010-05-11 20:24:58 utc kennethkalmer truth be told, not at all
2010-05-11 20:25:00 utc kennethkalmer however
2010-05-11 20:25:09 utc kennethkalmer iirc i've done the most of the work
2010-05-11 20:25:23 utc kennethkalmer and touching it up and keeping it aligned with ruote itself should not be an issue
2010-05-11 20:25:41 utc kennethkalmer all i need is a prod when things go wonkey
2010-05-11 20:25:50 utc kennethkalmer and i'll address it as best i can
2010-05-11 20:26:03 utc kennethkalmer i'm personally favoring the couch persistence atm
2010-05-11 20:26:14 utc kennethkalmer it is slowish, but for my needs it is perfect
2010-05-11 20:27:36 utc kennethkalmer and john is working on leveraging some killer new features in couchdb 0.11 which excites me
2010-05-11 20:29:27 utc kennethkalmer ACTION lifts an eyebrow at ruote-ar still using hoe
2010-05-11 20:31:54 utc der-dokctor what is hoe?
2010-05-11 20:32:25 utc der-dokctor will it work with rails 3?
2010-05-11 20:32:44 utc kennethkalmer it is a project from seattle.rb for helping with gemspec's and rubyforge projects
2010-05-11 20:32:54 utc kennethkalmer i've moved over all my projects to jeweler
2010-05-11 20:33:00 utc kennethkalmer quickly switching ruote-ar too
2010-05-11 20:33:02 utc der-dokctor ah, ok
2010-05-11 20:34:38 utc wayneeseguin kennethkalmer / der-dokctor w00t! Thanks :)
2010-05-11 20:34:46 utc kennethkalmer :)
2010-05-11 20:34:53 utc kennethkalmer wayneeseguin: always a pleasure
2010-05-11 20:35:26 utc der-dokctor hi, wayneeseguin :-)
2010-05-11 20:37:33 utc wayneeseguin :)
2010-05-11 20:38:07 utc der-dokctor kennethkalmer, thus, to sum up ruote-AR runs fine with the current rails but the future is somewhat uncertain
2010-05-11 20:38:33 utc kennethkalmer both remains to be seen, i'll make sure both cases are covered for ruote-2.1
2010-05-11 20:40:49 utc kennethkalmer it seems i was targetting 2.0 by looking at the code
2010-05-11 20:43:29 utc der-dokctor uh, yes, I think so
2010-05-11 20:43:55 utc kennethkalmer it is 22:48 by me (+2)
2010-05-11 20:44:18 utc der-dokctor correct
2010-05-11 20:44:32 utc der-dokctor the same here
2010-05-11 20:44:40 utc kennethkalmer just so i know the times we can catch up as I get this going forward
2010-05-11 20:45:03 utc der-dokctor :-l
2010-05-11 20:45:52 utc der-dokctor can you be a little bit more specific on the schedule?
2010-05-11 20:46:25 utc der-dokctor when do you expect you can get things done?
2010-05-11 20:47:05 utc kennethkalmer should be done by the end of next week
2010-05-11 20:47:09 utc kennethkalmer things are hectic atm
2010-05-11 20:47:16 utc kennethkalmer but i like little distractions like this
2010-05-11 20:47:30 utc der-dokctor :-) Good for me
2010-05-11 20:47:35 utc der-dokctor thank you very much
2010-05-11 20:47:42 utc kennethkalmer only a pleasure
2010-05-11 20:49:01 utc der-dokctor if I try to get into configuring or coding I am sure I will have questions ;-)
2010-05-11 20:49:20 utc kennethkalmer awesome, would need someone to hammer it for me
2010-05-11 20:54:25 utc der-dokctor In the meantime I will play a little bit with the Storage Participant and AR. Afterwards I will look deeper into ruote-ar
2010-05-11 20:54:37 utc kennethkalmer great
2010-05-11 20:56:24 utc kennethkalmer great, my tests are running (well epicly failing)
2010-05-11 20:56:28 utc kennethkalmer at least it is some progress
2010-05-11 20:56:35 utc kennethkalmer i'll pick this up tomorrow again
2010-05-11 20:57:43 utc kennethkalmer will be a good time to check out the internals of ruote-couch, using it as a base for ruote-ar
2010-05-11 21:00:58 utc kennethkalmer i'm outa here
2010-05-11 21:00:59 utc kennethkalmer ttyl !
2010-05-11 21:02:16 utc der-dokctor :-)
2010-05-11 21:02:23 utc der-dokctor thank and good luck
2010-05-11 21:02:29 utc der-dokctor see you