| 2010-04-14 00:59:23 utc | jmettraux | LogicallySound: yes, would make a nice combination |
| 2010-04-14 00:59:31 utc | LogicallySound | jmettraux: =) |
| 2010-04-14 00:59:45 utc | LogicallySound | The beauty of open source. ;) |
| 2010-04-14 01:00:41 utc | LogicallySound | Looks like you can configure holidays for it. |
| 2010-04-14 01:00:57 utc | jmettraux | yes, I hope David will allow for some config files |
| 2010-04-14 01:00:58 utc | LogicallySound | So that solves the problem of figuring out which days are the "exception" to the regular work week when doing calculations. |
| 2010-04-14 01:01:18 utc | jmettraux | holidays_jp.yaml would be cool |
| 2010-04-14 01:01:33 utc | LogicallySound | Yeah... like, work it out by locales. |
| 2010-04-14 01:01:51 utc | LogicallySound | Could make an excellent plugin for rails 3... |
| 2010-04-14 01:02:10 utc | jmettraux | fork fork fork |
| 2010-04-14 01:02:21 utc | jmettraux | ;) |
| 2010-04-14 01:02:50 utc | LogicallySound | I'm taking a clone for the moment. I'll fork when I start hacking on it. =) |
| 2010-04-14 01:03:12 utc | jmettraux | :) If you can help David on that one, that would be great |
| 2010-04-14 01:03:48 utc | LogicallySound | Could be fun. ;) |
| 2010-04-14 01:04:38 utc | jmettraux | Should I fill an issue for the holiday conf file or do you want to do it by yourself ? |
| 2010-04-14 01:05:15 utc | LogicallySound | I'm just browsing the source for now. Feel free to file a feature request for it. |
| 2010-04-14 01:05:21 utc | jmettraux | OK |
| 2010-04-14 01:05:27 utc | LogicallySound | The logic seems a bit primitive... |
| 2010-04-14 01:05:37 utc | LogicallySound | Very clean, though. |
| 2010-04-14 01:08:09 utc | jmettraux | issued : http://github.com/bokmann/business_time/issues/issue/1 |
| 2010-04-14 01:09:08 utc | LogicallySound | Voted. |
| 2010-04-14 01:09:31 utc | jmettraux | :) |
| 2010-04-14 01:09:46 utc | LogicallySound | But if I were to start hacking on this I might start with some of the stuff he'd like to see it do, like varying the weekdays that are considered as "business days". |
| 2010-04-14 01:11:29 utc | jmettraux | true |
| 2010-04-14 01:11:56 utc | jmettraux | configuration issues are subtle indeed |
| 2010-04-14 01:12:09 utc | LogicallySound | And then there's the timezone stuff. |
| 2010-04-14 01:12:33 utc | LogicallySound | It would be good to be able to take advantage of ActiveSupport's TimeWithZone if it is defined. |
| 2010-04-14 01:16:15 utc | jmettraux | +1 |
| 2010-04-14 06:55:57 utc | kennethkalmer | pivotal tracker is seriously awesome |
| 2010-04-14 06:56:20 utc | jmettraux | is that the thing that Wayne is using for rvm ? |
| 2010-04-14 06:56:26 utc | kennethkalmer | yeah |
| 2010-04-14 06:56:39 utc | kennethkalmer | for the first time the office can see how huge my backlog really is, and are starting to unburden me |
| 2010-04-14 06:56:51 utc | jmettraux | ooh |
| 2010-04-14 06:57:13 utc | jmettraux | I tried to use it a while ago |
| 2010-04-14 06:57:19 utc | jmettraux | but could not get it |
| 2010-04-14 06:57:58 utc | kennethkalmer | i purely use it as an ordered list of tasks, and then velocity to show how far into the future things will get done |
| 2010-04-14 06:58:28 utc | jmettraux | coffee awaits me, should I bring back some ? |
| 2010-04-14 06:59:10 utc | kennethkalmer | would appreciate it ! |
| 2010-04-14 07:22:53 utc | jmettraux | kennethkalmer: here's your espresso |
| 2010-04-14 07:23:07 utc | kennethkalmer | thanks a lot ! |
| 2010-04-14 08:42:35 utc | jmettraux | kennethkalmer: maybe some inspiration : http://github.com/NYTimes/lifeline |
| 2010-04-14 08:43:12 utc | kennethkalmer | hmmm, looks interesting thanks ! |
| 2010-04-14 08:43:22 utc | jmettraux | you're welcome |
| 2010-04-14 10:41:27 utc | wayneeseguin | kennethkalmer: w00t!!!! |
| 2010-04-14 10:41:31 utc | wayneeseguin | YES |
| 2010-04-14 10:41:36 utc | wayneeseguin | PT IS *awesome* |
| 2010-04-14 10:41:48 utc | wayneeseguin | especially if used proper |
| 2010-04-14 10:55:14 utc | kennethkalmer | hi wayneeseguin |
| 2010-04-14 10:55:18 utc | kennethkalmer | yeah, definitely |
| 2010-04-14 11:09:33 utc | wayneeseguin | :D |
| 2010-04-14 11:36:25 utc | wayneeseguin | jmettraux: I got quite a chuckle out of that one yesterday ;) |
| 2010-04-14 11:36:25 utc | wayneeseguin | http://skitch.com/wayneeseguin/n62k7/praise-be-unto-him |
| 2010-04-14 11:36:48 utc | jmettraux | :) seen it on #rvm |
| 2010-04-14 11:36:52 utc | jmettraux | good lol |
| 2010-04-14 12:22:18 utc | wayneeseguin | kennethkalmer / jmettraux any Nagios experience? |
| 2010-04-14 12:22:30 utc | jmettraux | no, sorry |
| 2010-04-14 12:22:32 utc | kennethkalmer | more than I'd like :) |
| 2010-04-14 12:23:41 utc | wayneeseguin | kennethkalmer: I've been going a bit nuts trying to get PNP running |
| 2010-04-14 12:23:43 utc | wayneeseguin | Any pointers? |
| 2010-04-14 12:23:52 utc | kennethkalmer | PNP ? |
| 2010-04-14 12:24:08 utc | wayneeseguin | http://docs.pnp4nagios.org/ |
| 2010-04-14 12:24:29 utc | wayneeseguin | kennethkalmer: also if you do use it you should check this out: http://www.icinga.org/ |
| 2010-04-14 12:29:58 utc | kennethkalmer | so, icinga is a fork of nagios, looks ok |
| 2010-04-14 12:30:07 utc | kennethkalmer | i don't use nagios for performance data (yet) |
| 2010-04-14 12:30:19 utc | kennethkalmer | so I have no ideas what could be wrong with pnp |
| 2010-04-14 12:30:29 utc | kennethkalmer | we do most of our performance data with nagios |
| 2010-04-14 12:32:23 utc | wayneeseguin | Yeah I just need the added trending now |
| 2010-04-14 12:32:26 utc | wayneeseguin | graph outputs |
| 2010-04-14 12:32:35 utc | wayneeseguin | that PNP provides |
| 2010-04-14 12:32:40 utc | wayneeseguin | I'll figure it out |
| 2010-04-14 12:32:50 utc | wayneeseguin | Was just hoping to talk to someone that had done it already ;) |
| 2010-04-14 12:33:02 utc | wayneeseguin | allow me to get back to hacking on RVM sooner |
| 2010-04-14 12:34:02 utc | kennethkalmer | :) |
| 2010-04-14 12:34:20 utc | kennethkalmer | i have to admit, i've been thinking about re-thinking nagios |
| 2010-04-14 12:34:26 utc | kennethkalmer | but that is for a much later stage |
| 2010-04-14 12:34:51 utc | wayneeseguin | kennethkalmer: well if you do I'd recommend ganglia |
| 2010-04-14 12:35:01 utc | wayneeseguin | kennethkalmer: http://ganglia.sourceforge.net/ |
| 2010-04-14 12:35:09 utc | wayneeseguin | *push* based instead of poll based |
| 2010-04-14 12:35:14 utc | wayneeseguin | awesome architecture |
| 2010-04-14 12:35:39 utc | wayneeseguin | pretty soon I'll have 3 monitoring solutions in place ;) |
| 2010-04-14 12:35:43 utc | wayneeseguin | Nagios is very dated |
| 2010-04-14 12:35:51 utc | wayneeseguin | So I'll likely use both icinga and ganglia for a time |
| 2010-04-14 12:36:14 utc | kennethkalmer | nagios (& forks) and ganglia serve different purposes don't they ? |
| 2010-04-14 12:36:28 utc | kennethkalmer | i've been thinking of replacing our cacti setup with ganglia |
| 2010-04-14 12:37:13 utc | wayneeseguin | If you do let me know |
| 2010-04-14 12:37:20 utc | wayneeseguin | We can explore it together :) |
| 2010-04-14 12:37:33 utc | kennethkalmer | for sure ! |
| 2010-04-14 12:40:20 utc | wayneeseguin | Actually I have already done some installation |
| 2010-04-14 12:40:26 utc | wayneeseguin | and partial hookup |
| 2010-04-14 12:40:35 utc | wayneeseguin | I have Nagios running behind Nginx :) |
| 2010-04-14 12:43:17 utc | wayneeseguin | kennethkalmer: Do you use Nginx or are you a tomahawk chucker? |
| 2010-04-14 12:43:32 utc | kennethkalmer | both actually |
| 2010-04-14 12:43:35 utc | kennethkalmer | depends on the context |
| 2010-04-14 12:43:41 utc | kennethkalmer | for my own apps i prefer nginx |
| 2010-04-14 12:43:51 utc | kennethkalmer | our shared rails/rack hostings is passenger |
| 2010-04-14 12:43:55 utc | kennethkalmer | erm |
| 2010-04-14 12:43:57 utc | kennethkalmer | tomahawk |
| 2010-04-14 12:47:58 utc | wayneeseguin | Passenger runs fine on Nginx :) |
| 2010-04-14 12:51:12 utc | kennethkalmer | i know, using it :) |
| 2010-04-14 14:02:48 utc | jmettraux | LogicallySound: hard core forking action |
| 2010-04-14 14:03:09 utc | LogicallySound | jmettraux: I might hack on it in between actual work. |
| 2010-04-14 14:03:21 utc | LogicallySound | Or tonight. One or the other. |
| 2010-04-14 14:03:31 utc | jmettraux | :) |
| 2010-04-14 14:18:57 utc | cbeer_ | wayneeseguin: i'd second ganglia for historical monitoring, and have been struggling with a nagios install for alerts, icinga looks good |
| 2010-04-14 14:26:37 utc | wayneeseguin | hai! |
| 2010-04-14 23:26:25 utc | LogicallySound | jmettraux: Doing a bit of hacking on business_time. I like the addition of Rails generators but I wonder if the generator code needs to be adjusted for Rails 3. |
| 2010-04-14 23:26:45 utc | jmettraux | nice dilemma |
| 2010-04-14 23:27:05 utc | jmettraux | maybe do whatever is more useful to you |
| 2010-04-14 23:30:36 utc | LogicallySound | Well, I'm playing with Rails 3, so this is a good chance to learn about Rails 3 generators (and Thor). |
| 2010-04-14 23:30:53 utc | jmettraux | :) using rails3 here as well |
| 2010-04-14 23:31:14 utc | jmettraux | in the case of business_time, what do you want to generate ? |
| 2010-04-14 23:31:27 utc | jmettraux | by the way did you see David's answer about the issue ? |
| 2010-04-14 23:31:46 utc | LogicallySound | He seems to have added something for it. |
| 2010-04-14 23:33:53 utc | LogicallySound | Which is to say there's now a Rails 2.3.x generator that creates a .yml configuration file and initializer to load that configuration. |
| 2010-04-14 23:34:20 utc | jmettraux | got it |
| 2010-04-14 23:48:47 utc | biv | I'm sitting here thinking I should use this time to perhaps code a CMS |
| 2010-04-14 23:48:58 utc | jmettraux | :) |
| 2010-04-14 23:49:02 utc | biv | I'm supposed to be reviewing CMS' for an upcoming project, and always think I should code one |
| 2010-04-14 23:51:32 utc | jmettraux | how would you make it different ? |
| 2010-04-14 23:53:30 utc | biv | here are some old notes |
| 2010-04-14 23:53:30 utc | biv | http://github.com/biv/cms_foo |
| 2010-04-14 23:54:42 utc | jmettraux | I love the name |
| 2010-04-14 23:55:47 utc | biv | just trying to think if I want to do it |
| 2010-04-14 23:56:04 utc | biv | but I have so much CMS work, it might be a good idea to do it |
| 2010-04-15 00:07:30 utc | jmettraux | sorry, I'm not very responsive, I'm working on some concurrency testing thing that is monopolizing my brain |
| 2010-04-15 00:08:00 utc | jmettraux | and the morning coffee isn't yet effective |
| 2010-04-15 00:11:43 utc | biv | np |
| 2010-04-15 00:11:56 utc | biv | just thinking I could churn out a Rails 3 cms pretty quickly |
| 2010-04-15 00:12:02 utc | biv | none of the others are rails 3 ready |