| 2010-04-06 08:07:58 utc | jmettraux | tosch_le : hi ! |
| 2010-04-06 08:16:34 utc | tosch_le | hi john! |
| 2010-04-06 08:16:42 utc | jmettraux | how are you doing ? |
| 2010-04-06 08:16:43 utc | tosch_le | did you have nice easter holidays? |
| 2010-04-06 08:16:49 utc | tosch_le | fine, thanks. and you? |
| 2010-04-06 08:17:09 utc | jmettraux | eh, no easter holidays here :) |
| 2010-04-06 08:17:19 utc | jmettraux | doing fine |
| 2010-04-06 08:29:11 utc | jmettraux | there was someone named "vagmi" yesterday, perhaps he will come back today http://ruote.rubyforge.org/irclogs/ruote_2010-04-05.txt |
| 2010-04-06 08:29:26 utc | jmettraux | he was looking for some ruote-kit + sinatra help |
| 2010-04-06 08:29:38 utc | jmettraux | please help him if you have the time (and if he comes back) |
| 2010-04-06 08:31:28 utc | tosch_le | sure i will do so. |
| 2010-04-06 10:46:48 utc | wayneeseguin | jmettraux Thank you again :) |
| 2010-04-06 11:46:33 utc | jmettraux | tosch_le : many thanks for the ruote-kit reply on the ML :) |
| 2010-04-06 11:53:49 utc | tosch_le | it's always a pleasure. and i'm learning a lot, didn't think about the fact the rk is used as rest interface to ruote... |
| 2010-04-06 12:07:05 utc | jmettraux | :) it surfaces sometimes, like in http://twitter.com/enricobianco/status/11484093014 |
| 2010-04-06 12:09:15 utc | tosch_le | nice tweet conversation |
| 2010-04-06 12:23:14 utc | jmettraux | had to add a quick note to the mail thread, "one more way to shoot yourself in the foot" |
| 2010-04-06 12:29:19 utc | tosch_le | that may not only hit the foot but also the whole leg... |
| 2010-04-06 12:30:01 utc | jmettraux | yeah, but sorry, I hate when people complain about "imaginary limitations" |
| 2010-04-06 12:31:02 utc | tosch_le | the more unfriendly but nonetheless righteous answer would have been: "read the f****** source code" |
| 2010-04-06 12:31:40 utc | jmettraux | :) people can barely read an error message ;) |
| 2010-04-06 12:33:38 utc | tosch_le | but i can understand asier, reading the source code is some work if you don't know ruby (although it's much more pain in the ass with other languages) |
| 2010-04-06 12:33:53 utc | jmettraux | +1 |
| 2010-04-06 12:35:26 utc | tosch_le | what annoys me more is that he didn't write why he needs dynamic participant registration. that way, one needs a crytal ball to give an usable answer |
| 2010-04-06 12:35:44 utc | tosch_le | s/crytal/crystal/ |
| 2010-04-06 12:35:54 utc | jmettraux | same thing here |
| 2010-04-06 12:37:28 utc | tosch_le | but hey, he got some spots to look on. i'm happy -- the sun is shining :-) |
| 2010-04-06 12:37:42 utc | jmettraux | how is the job ? |
| 2010-04-06 12:39:12 utc | tosch_le | some ugly work on a php based app last week, but it's getting better: doing a rails app now and i'm considering a schema-less document store |
| 2010-04-06 12:39:30 utc | jmettraux | oh cool, which one are you evaluating ? |
| 2010-04-06 12:39:56 utc | tosch_le | wdyt? couchdb? mongodb? or redis? wayne was so enthusiastic... |
| 2010-04-06 12:40:22 utc | jmettraux | depends on speed/accessibilty/volume of data |
| 2010-04-06 12:40:44 utc | jmettraux | redis requires you to have all the data in-memory |
| 2010-04-06 12:40:46 utc | tosch_le | there are only a few requirements |
| 2010-04-06 12:41:05 utc | tosch_le | and the data volume will be rather low. |
| 2010-04-06 12:41:34 utc | jmettraux | couchdb gives you futon, a ready-to-use web interface |
| 2010-04-06 12:41:43 utc | jmettraux | take your time |
| 2010-04-06 12:42:21 utc | tosch_le | it will be a resource planning calendar for an indepent cinema / event location |
| 2010-04-06 12:42:46 utc | tosch_le | they need some flexibible attributes on the event model |
| 2010-04-06 12:43:10 utc | jmettraux | sounds like you'll have fun |
| 2010-04-06 12:43:40 utc | tosch_le | yeah, definitely! the first time i use cucumber and rspec for real :-) |
| 2010-04-06 12:44:30 utc | tosch_le | how is /your/ job? |
| 2010-04-06 12:44:35 utc | jmettraux | :) |
| 2010-04-06 12:45:02 utc | jmettraux | doing fine, the requirements for the motherboard tracking system are slowly evolving |
| 2010-04-06 12:45:15 utc | jmettraux | now have 3+ process definitions (tinier) |
| 2010-04-06 12:45:32 utc | jmettraux | and some of them are tracking batches of boards instead of individual boards |
| 2010-04-06 12:46:46 utc | jmettraux | speaking of redis : http://github.com/jmettraux/ruote-redis |
| 2010-04-06 12:47:47 utc | wayneeseguin | jmettraux: Redis has a VM system now, so it only needs to store keys in memory and can store values on disk. |
| 2010-04-06 12:47:51 utc | wayneeseguin | It's also persistent |
| 2010-04-06 12:48:08 utc | jmettraux | wayneseguin: yes, looking forward to it |
| 2010-04-06 12:49:15 utc | tosch_le | i've seen ruote-redis in my github dashboard. did you do some benchmarking already? (not that i would need a really fast ruote...) |
| 2010-04-06 12:49:30 utc | jmettraux | ok |
| 2010-04-06 12:50:01 utc | jmettraux | ruby test/functional/test.rb |
| 2010-04-06 12:51:40 utc | jmettraux | ruote-hash : 63s |
| 2010-04-06 12:52:59 utc | jmettraux | ruote-dm : 154s |
| 2010-04-06 12:53:29 utc | jmettraux | ruote-fs : 91s |
| 2010-04-06 12:55:51 utc | jmettraux | ruote-redis : 90s (but tested with ruby 1.9.1 while the other results are 1.8.7) |
| 2010-04-06 12:56:23 utc | jmettraux | couch is... slow |
| 2010-04-06 12:57:03 utc | tosch_le | "relax"! |
| 2010-04-06 12:57:28 utc | tosch_le | or better: "time to relax" ;-) |
| 2010-04-06 12:57:31 utc | jmettraux | ACTION is running --couch test |
| 2010-04-06 12:57:35 utc | jmettraux | :) |
| 2010-04-06 13:06:37 utc | jmettraux | ruote-couch : 569s |
| 2010-04-06 13:07:08 utc | jmettraux | the frustrating thing is that I measured that ~40% of this time is spent in setup and teardown |
| 2010-04-06 13:08:31 utc | jmettraux | but I'm working on two rails app ruote-kit + ruote-couch and the performance is acceptable (the slowness is not perceptible at all) |
| 2010-04-06 13:10:05 utc | tosch_le | i suppose realtime responsiveness is no key requirement for ruote |
| 2010-04-06 13:10:11 utc | tosch_le | ;-) |
| 2010-04-06 13:10:30 utc | jmettraux | :) |
| 2010-04-06 13:10:44 utc | tosch_le | i'm still perfectly happy with ruote-fs |
| 2010-04-06 13:11:26 utc | jmettraux | JSON everywhere ftw |