ruote log_2010-03-25

2010-03-25 02:58:40 utc gmcinnes Hey all. Anyone about? I'm having a hard time getting a simple _if to work in a workflow in 1.9.x Can an _if control execution of a subprocess?
2010-03-25 02:59:06 utc gmcinnes i.e. I want to run the subprocess if and only if the _if test is true
2010-03-25 03:05:01 utc jmettraux back
2010-03-25 03:05:31 utc jmettraux subprocess :ref => 'x', :if => '${ok}'
2010-03-25 03:05:37 utc jmettraux or
2010-03-25 03:06:26 utc jmettraux _if :test => '${ok} == true' { then_block; else_block }
2010-03-25 03:07:43 utc jmettraux or you can gist (http://gist.github.com/) your definition
2010-03-25 03:07:56 utc jmettraux gmcinnes: hello
2010-03-25 03:08:55 utc gmcinnes hey jmettraux. how's it?
2010-03-25 03:09:03 utc jmettraux doing fine, and you ?
2010-03-25 03:09:27 utc gmcinnes doing well.
2010-03-25 03:12:02 utc gmcinnes here's the def'n I have now: http://gist.github.com/343131
2010-03-25 03:12:55 utc gmcinnes I have a ton of other questions if you have a few mins :)
2010-03-25 03:12:58 utc jmettraux _if :test => "${voip_action_id}" do
2010-03-25 03:13:02 utc jmettraux should be sufficient
2010-03-25 03:13:19 utc jmettraux but maybe you want ${f:voip_action_id}
2010-03-25 03:13:39 utc gmcinnes oops. yup.
2010-03-25 03:13:58 utc jmettraux 2.1.x defaults to field
2010-03-25 03:14:22 utc jmettraux please fire the questions
2010-03-25 03:14:50 utc gmcinnes main one: is there any way for participants to access workflow expressions such as _when?
2010-03-25 03:15:11 utc jmettraux yes
2010-03-25 03:15:42 utc jmettraux by placing information relevant to the _when in their workitem and replying
2010-03-25 03:16:25 utc jmettraux I'm not sure, but I have the impression you want a behaviour like a "listen" : http://openwferu.rubyforge.org/expressions.html#exp_listen
2010-03-25 03:22:33 utc gmcinnes hmm. so I could pull the voip_sender subprocess stuff out, and put it in a new workflow that is wrapped in a listen that listens for the reply from check_adherence participant
2010-03-25 03:22:39 utc gmcinnes if I understand correctly.
2010-03-25 03:23:06 utc jmettraux I don't know
2010-03-25 03:23:10 utc gmcinnes :)
2010-03-25 03:23:15 utc jmettraux It's just an impression
2010-03-25 03:23:44 utc jmettraux the impression is you want a process to watch the reply of a participant in another process or concurrent branch
2010-03-25 03:24:47 utc jmettraux if it is not that, then you can safely go on with the classical one participant apply one participant reply
2010-03-25 03:25:29 utc jmettraux your iterator looks good, you're gathering information, then when all is done, you display_dump
2010-03-25 03:28:15 utc gmcinnes basically, I have a participant that checks the adherence, then I want another participant that takes care of firing off voip calls if there is a voip_action_id in the workitem
2010-03-25 03:29:17 utc jmettraux the code that you have looks right
2010-03-25 03:29:50 utc gmcinnes seems easy enough, but I wanted to be able to use participant expressions such as _when and _iterator and _sleep to handle retries and only sending during reasonable hours etc.
2010-03-25 03:30:22 utc gmcinnes here's the subprocess: http://gist.github.com/343140
2010-03-25 03:31:16 utc jmettraux whoah
2010-03-25 03:31:31 utc gmcinnes ?
2010-03-25 03:32:31 utc jmettraux trying to think about how I would model that
2010-03-25 03:33:09 utc gmcinnes I think I'm doing it wrong 'cause it seems more complex than neccessary.
2010-03-25 03:34:12 utc jmettraux ACTION prepares a gist
2010-03-25 03:34:25 utc gmcinnes Awesome.
2010-03-25 03:35:08 utc jmettraux I wish you were on 2.1.x
2010-03-25 03:37:27 utc gmcinnes Me too. Only a week to go. This functionality is the last I'll ever have to add to the 1.9.x branch.
2010-03-25 03:37:58 utc jmettraux http://gist.github.com/343143
2010-03-25 03:38:05 utc gmcinnes In fact my ticket here says "yak shave through Twilio and Ruote 2.x"
2010-03-25 03:38:14 utc jmettraux :)
2010-03-25 03:40:08 utc gmcinnes do I need the :to_v part of the iterator expression?
2010-03-25 03:40:29 utc jmettraux on 2.1.x you can drop it, on 0.9.x, I can't remember
2010-03-25 03:40:52 utc gmcinnes ok.
2010-03-25 03:52:07 utc gmcinnes hmm. weird. wait :for => '1s' seems to block forever (I removed the other wait while testing just now.
2010-03-25 03:52:48 utc jmettraux anything in the error log ?
2010-03-25 03:56:29 utc gmcinnes not that I see.
2010-03-25 03:57:03 utc jmettraux and if you run without the wait :for => '1s' ?
2010-03-25 03:57:40 utc gmcinnes works as expected. all my tests pass.
2010-03-25 03:58:09 utc jmettraux good, maybe it would work with something like wait :for => '30s'
2010-03-25 04:01:18 utc gmcinnes hmm. wait a mo. it just worked fine that time.
2010-03-25 04:01:20 utc gmcinnes weird.
2010-03-25 04:02:01 utc gmcinnes I sense some odd threading issues between cucumber and ruote maybe. I dunno.
2010-03-25 04:02:06 utc gmcinnes Phase of the moon stuff :)
2010-03-25 04:04:38 utc jmettraux ouch
2010-03-25 04:05:15 utc jmettraux btw, there is that in the works : http://github.com/jmettraux/ruote-cukes
2010-03-25 04:08:40 utc gmcinnes oh sweet. I'll try and jump in on that.
2010-03-25 04:08:49 utc jmettraux it's 2.1.x ;)
2010-03-25 04:09:03 utc gmcinnes yeah, I figured.
2010-03-25 04:09:09 utc jmettraux feedback is welcome as my cucumber-fu is very low
2010-03-25 04:10:26 utc gmcinnes I'll see what I can do. I have my own stuff here, but its a bit flaky and really domain specific to my app.
2010-03-25 04:11:03 utc jmettraux patches, suggestions, critics, remarks, teachings, ... are welcome
2010-03-25 04:12:07 utc gmcinnes i.e. its not focused on the workflows per se, but rather setting up pre-conditions firing off workflows and testing post-conditions
2010-03-25 04:12:22 utc jmettraux aah
2010-03-25 04:12:31 utc jmettraux ACTION take notes anyway
2010-03-25 04:27:08 utc gmcinnes hmph. still having trouble with that 2nd wait statement, but its _sleep :for => '8h' gmcinnes now.
2010-03-25 04:27:19 utc jmettraux ouch
2010-03-25 04:27:21 utc gmcinnes thanks for your help again. talk to you soon I hope :)
2010-03-25 04:27:29 utc jmettraux :)
2010-03-25 15:34:27 utc gmcinnes Can anyone hit me with a cluestick about how the _listen expression is supposed to work?