ruote log_2010-02-25

2010-02-25 00:55:26 utc jmettraux qmx: Hi ! Isn't it a bit late for you ?
2010-02-25 00:55:58 utc qmx yeah!
2010-02-25 00:56:08 utc qmx jmettraux: I'm kinda zombie :)
2010-02-25 00:56:14 utc jmettraux lol
2010-02-25 00:56:32 utc qmx I missed the away
2010-02-25 00:56:45 utc qmx|away but I'm here
2010-02-25 00:56:45 utc jmettraux ah
2010-02-25 00:57:03 utc jmettraux another success case : http://jmettraux.wordpress.com/2009/10/15/ruedas-y-cervezas-first-instance/ http://abstra.cc
2010-02-25 00:57:21 utc jmettraux I will try to compile a "people/organization using ruote" page
2010-02-25 00:57:28 utc jmettraux it's in demand these days
2010-02-25 00:57:54 utc jmettraux and too bad I forgot to present you anb_ yesterday, he's also a jbpm transfuge
2010-02-25 05:43:08 utc jmettraux iktome: hi !
2010-02-25 05:43:14 utc iktome hi
2010-02-25 05:43:51 utc iktome I'm new to ruote as of yesterday
2010-02-25 05:44:01 utc jmettraux welcome on #ruote then
2010-02-25 05:44:08 utc iktome thanks
2010-02-25 05:44:25 utc iktome I'm having a little trouble getting started
2010-02-25 05:44:30 utc jmettraux ok
2010-02-25 05:44:58 utc iktome I've been trying to use ruote-kit to integrate it into a rails app
2010-02-25 05:45:27 utc iktome I used tosch's ruote-on-rails
2010-02-25 05:45:34 utc jmettraux ah
2010-02-25 05:45:42 utc iktome and everything looks ok
2010-02-25 05:46:08 utc iktome you said "ah"...
2010-02-25 05:46:25 utc jmettraux sorry, just like "ok, I'm listening..."
2010-02-25 05:46:29 utc iktome ok
2010-02-25 05:46:31 utc iktome sorry
2010-02-25 05:46:36 utc jmettraux no worries
2010-02-25 05:47:02 utc iktome I've set some participants
2010-02-25 05:47:37 utc iktome but I'm still at a bit of a loss as to launching my process definition
2010-02-25 05:47:47 utc iktome I can use
2010-02-25 05:47:58 utc iktome RuoteKit.engine.launch
2010-02-25 05:48:07 utc iktome but where should I put it
2010-02-25 05:48:19 utc iktome to me the ruote-kit.rb initializer
2010-02-25 05:48:25 utc jmettraux in the a controller action
2010-02-25 05:48:32 utc jmettraux in a controller action
2010-02-25 05:48:46 utc jmettraux when your user wants to launch a process instance
2010-02-25 05:48:56 utc iktome ok
2010-02-25 05:49:03 utc iktome I think I see
2010-02-25 05:49:11 utc iktome sorry, I'm a bit slow
2010-02-25 05:49:19 utc jmettraux putting it in the initializer would mean that every time you boot the app, the process would be launched
2010-02-25 05:49:23 utc jmettraux no worries
2010-02-25 05:49:27 utc iktome I see
2010-02-25 05:49:37 utc iktome that makes sense
2010-02-25 05:49:52 utc jmettraux "the process", rather "a process instance"
2010-02-25 05:49:52 utc iktome thanks
2010-02-25 05:49:57 utc jmettraux you're welcome
2010-02-25 05:50:19 utc iktome I think that's actually where I was confusing myself
2010-02-25 05:50:27 utc iktome I'll give it a shot
2010-02-25 05:50:45 utc jmettraux if you have any question, please fir
2010-02-25 05:50:46 utc jmettraux e
2010-02-25 05:51:17 utc jmettraux if there is nobody here, the mailing list is the right place, I've seen you're already registered
2010-02-25 05:54:45 utc iktome thanks again
2010-02-25 05:54:51 utc jmettraux :)
2010-02-25 07:43:42 utc jmettraux hi guys !
2010-02-25 07:44:01 utc tosch_le hi!
2010-02-25 07:44:09 utc jmettraux how is it going ?
2010-02-25 07:46:02 utc tosch_le could be better. still having to code on that awful dating site. and at yours?
2010-02-25 07:46:33 utc jmettraux going smoothly, when will your PHP gig be over ?
2010-02-25 07:47:44 utc tosch_le next week, i hope. but there's the next one in sight: a social networking site. alas -- as if there weren't a billion of them already.
2010-02-25 07:48:12 utc jmettraux whoah, Ruby next time ?
2010-02-25 07:49:20 utc tosch_le budget is low, they want to use a pre-made software for that. the two rails candidates will get considered (hehe), but i suppose the feature sets are not broad enough. i'll see.
2010-02-25 07:50:26 utc jmettraux is that guys that come up to your company and say "hey, I'm a social networking expert, help me be the next xing" or something ?
2010-02-25 07:52:06 utc tosch_le it's more like: we have seen that great sites, have no clue how but we'd like to get a piece of the cake.
2010-02-25 07:52:15 utc jmettraux ouch
2010-02-25 07:52:20 utc tosch_le yes.
2010-02-25 07:52:36 utc tosch_le but luckily, that's none of my business.
2010-02-25 07:53:11 utc tosch_le i'll code my lines and hopefully will forget that piece of software as soon as possible...
2010-02-25 07:55:04 utc tosch_le but hey, there's a ray of light: will have to deliver a resource planning software for a local independent cinema soon. that one will be based on rails -- and i'll use rspec and cucumber for the first time on a project of mine.
2010-02-25 07:55:20 utc jmettraux oh nice
2010-02-25 07:55:25 utc jmettraux rails3 ?
2010-02-25 07:56:05 utc tosch_le as rspec-rails is not really ready for rails3, i'll stay at stable rails for the moment being.
2010-02-25 07:56:21 utc jmettraux ok
2010-02-25 07:57:15 utc jmettraux you need one of those : http://www.core77.com/blog/images/taxi004_core.jpg
2010-02-25 07:58:35 utc tosch_le but i'm really looking forward to my first rails 3 project. perhaps i'll update that new one when rails-rspec is ready for 3
2010-02-25 07:58:41 utc tosch_le great one!
2010-02-25 08:04:53 utc tosch_le is your new ruote project going well?
2010-02-25 08:09:17 utc jmettraux yes
2010-02-25 08:09:23 utc jmettraux h
2010-02-25 08:09:27 utc jmettraux ruote-kit ftw
2010-02-25 08:09:37 utc jmettraux haven't yet launched a process yet
2010-02-25 08:09:53 utc jmettraux still working on the assets the processes will be manipulating
2010-02-25 08:12:18 utc tosch_le btw: sorry again for the rebasing desaster, was my fault. should have remembered http://progit.org/book/ch3-6.html
2010-02-25 08:12:48 utc jmettraux ah, no worries
2010-02-25 08:14:08 utc tosch_le did you nuke your fork already? if not, git push --force should help, too
2010-02-25 08:14:34 utc tosch_le (as there no one based his work on your's, this wouldn't be that problematic, i suppose)
2010-02-25 08:14:46 utc jmettraux not yet nuked, I guess I'll be better off by forking again yours
2010-02-25 08:17:07 utc tosch_le still waiting for an answer from kenneth...
2010-02-25 08:17:25 utc tosch_le shit storm again in south africa ;-)
2010-02-25 08:17:30 utc jmettraux lol
2010-02-25 08:24:44 utc jmettraux tosch_le : I think I will start a "organizations using ruote" page, do you (your company) mind if I add your company, even if your system is happily sleeping by the customers
2010-02-25 08:24:54 utc jmettraux it could bring work opportunities
2010-02-25 08:25:19 utc tosch_le wait a moment, will ask my boss
2010-02-25 08:25:24 utc jmettraux :)
2010-02-25 08:31:38 utc tosch_le my boss thinks that is a good idea :-)
2010-02-25 08:31:55 utc jmettraux excellent !
2010-02-25 08:32:28 utc tosch_le do you need our company's name? it's "Planquadrat Software-Integration GmbH"
2010-02-25 08:32:38 utc jmettraux perfect
2010-02-25 08:33:40 utc kennethkalmer afternoon/morning guys
2010-02-25 08:33:51 utc tosch_le hi kenneth!
2010-02-25 08:33:54 utc jmettraux hello Kenneth !
2010-02-25 08:34:07 utc kennethkalmer you guys doing well ?
2010-02-25 08:34:39 utc jmettraux doing fine, still waiting for one of your answers ;)
2010-02-25 08:35:27 utc tosch_le could be better, still have to deal with php too much
2010-02-25 08:39:19 utc kennethkalmer i'm still cleaning up the mess on this side
2010-02-25 08:39:25 utc kennethkalmer lets see, which answer :)
2010-02-25 08:39:36 utc jmettraux what's the cause of the mess ? ;)
2010-02-25 08:39:50 utc kennethkalmer web server got compromised on Friday
2010-02-25 08:39:56 utc jmettraux oh frak
2010-02-25 08:40:33 utc kennethkalmer yep, been deploying security tools and updates to everthing we have
2010-02-25 08:40:42 utc kennethkalmer since they got a copy of the shadow file
2010-02-25 08:42:44 utc jmettraux if it's not too indiscreet, what was the entry point ?
2010-02-25 08:43:50 utc kennethkalmer a weak ftp password
2010-02-25 08:43:50 utc kennethkalmer got a webshell uploaded
2010-02-25 08:43:50 utc kennethkalmer the used cgi to compile a kernel exploit for root access
2010-02-25 08:44:14 utc kennethkalmer bastards
2010-02-25 08:44:18 utc tosch_le oh shit...
2010-02-25 08:44:25 utc kennethkalmer cgi's have now been disabled on all the web nodes
2010-02-25 08:44:48 utc kennethkalmer and we're upgrading to ubuntu private cloud so we can get kernel updates with minimal fuss
2010-02-25 08:44:58 utc kennethkalmer i'm rebuilding 126 nodes using chef
2010-02-25 08:45:05 utc kennethkalmer upgrading every piece of software we have
2010-02-25 08:45:13 utc jmettraux ouch
2010-02-25 08:45:16 utc kennethkalmer putting monitoring in place, log watching, etc
2010-02-25 08:45:33 utc tosch_le sounds like a lot of "fun"
2010-02-25 08:45:34 utc kennethkalmer been rough, but it is good to have a reboot like this
2010-02-25 08:45:41 utc jmettraux rebuilding the whole world
2010-02-25 08:45:52 utc jmettraux huge
2010-02-25 08:45:52 utc kennethkalmer plus side is that when i'm done everything will be documented properly (ala chef)
2010-02-25 08:45:55 utc kennethkalmer yep
2010-02-25 08:47:24 utc tosch_le jmettraux: you twittered "bundler broken" -- why that?
2010-02-25 08:48:22 utc jmettraux tosch_le: I did a bundle install and bundler upgraded itself to 0.9.8 and then rake tasks were grounded
2010-02-25 08:48:35 utc jmettraux an issue with the rubgems extensions provided by bundler
2010-02-25 08:48:49 utc jmettraux downgrading to bundler 0.9.7 brought everything to normal
2010-02-25 08:49:09 utc tosch_le oups.
2010-02-25 08:50:03 utc jmettraux kennethkalmer: admit you compromised the system yourself in order to force your partner to upgrade to chef ;)
2010-02-25 08:50:12 utc tosch_le just did some readme updates to ruote-on-rails as there's a recent (enough) ruote-kit gem available now
2010-02-25 08:50:33 utc jmettraux ACTION hopes Kenneth is not too tired and still appreciates that kind of humour
2010-02-25 08:50:45 utc kennethkalmer :D
2010-02-25 08:50:47 utc kennethkalmer classic
2010-02-25 08:50:50 utc jmettraux tosch_le : well done
2010-02-25 08:51:46 utc jmettraux ttyl guys !
2010-02-25 09:18:24 utc kennethkalmer tosch_le: which question was it ?
2010-02-25 09:18:43 utc kennethkalmer want to get my fork queue in order :)
2010-02-25 09:19:59 utc tosch_le don't know what question john meant but probably that one on the maintainer of the "root" ruote-kit repo
2010-02-25 09:20:24 utc kennethkalmer aah
2010-02-25 09:20:30 utc tosch_le that question he sent by mail a few days ago
2010-02-25 09:20:39 utc kennethkalmer crap, let me check
2010-02-25 09:20:54 utc kennethkalmer aside, can I apply all the changes in your fork to mine ?
2010-02-25 09:23:39 utc tosch_le you can
2010-02-25 09:24:33 utc tosch_le but don't apply the ones by john then, too, they are included in my fork. did some crap with rebasing...
2010-02-25 09:27:02 utc kennethkalmer ah, will do them manually then to get around it
2010-02-25 09:27:36 utc tosch_le pulling from my fork should be enough, john's commits are included
2010-02-25 09:28:11 utc tosch_le just don't pull from john's fork. mine should be ok.
2010-02-25 09:28:19 utc kennethkalmer copy that
2010-02-25 09:32:25 utc kennethkalmer tosch_le: you're now a collaborator on ruote-kit, jmettraux as well
2010-02-25 09:33:17 utc tosch_le that's great. shall i do the updates then so that you have some time for cooking with chef?
2010-02-25 09:33:53 utc tosch_le i see, you've already done the updates
2010-02-25 09:34:12 utc tosch_le thanks for your trust!
2010-02-25 09:35:12 utc kennethkalmer thanks for your relentless work on the project !
2010-02-25 12:53:14 utc jmettraux kennethkalmer, tosch_le : is that page OK with you guys ? http://ruote.rubyforge.org/users.html
2010-02-25 12:53:48 utc kennethkalmer +1
2010-02-25 12:53:51 utc kennethkalmer thanks a lot
2010-02-25 12:54:14 utc tosch_le but big thanks anyway!
2010-02-25 12:54:23 utc jmettraux thanks to you guys !
2010-02-25 12:54:57 utc jmettraux tosch_le : fixed
2010-02-25 12:56:19 utc jmettraux kennethkalmer: the about us / contact us links are broken on your first page
2010-02-25 12:57:20 utc kennethkalmer thanks for the headsup, Andries is fixing :)
2010-02-25 12:57:29 utc jmettraux :)
2010-02-25 13:06:07 utc jmettraux call for completion mailed : http://groups.google.com/group/openwferu-users/browse_thread/thread/2f7a87cddc93ef31
2010-02-25 13:39:00 utc jmettraux Pat asked me to add his SensorWeb 3G : http://ruote.rubyforge.org/users.html
2010-02-25 14:05:40 utc kennethkalmer that is going to be a stunning list :)
2010-02-25 14:05:44 utc kennethkalmer have to relocate
2010-02-25 14:05:48 utc kennethkalmer ttyl !
2010-02-25 14:15:59 utc jmettraux my turn to leave
2010-02-25 14:16:06 utc jmettraux have a good one !
2010-02-25 14:16:37 utc tosch_le bye!
2010-02-25 14:16:47 utc jmettraux ciao !